The Wendigo

Our exploration of the Wendigo legend opens a window into a chilling world of folklore, psychological horror, and the ultimate survival instinct. We dissect its origins, physical descriptions, and cultural significance throughout history alongside its manifestation in modern media.

• Discussion of the origins and cultural history of the Wendigo 
• Examination of physical characteristics and legendary descriptions 
• Insights into Wendigo psychosis and its psychological implications 
• Personal stories and listener experiences shared for deeper impact 
• Analysis of the Wendigo's portrayal in pop culture, including films and games 
• Connection of Wendigo lore to real-life events and missing persons cases 

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Chapters

• 0:00 Disclaimer and Introduction
• 6:02 The Origins of the Wendigo Legend
• 13:35 Descriptions and Physical Characteristics
• 24:45 Wendigo Psychosis Explained
• 36:20 Personal Encounters and Listener Stories
• 45:50 Wendigo in Pop Culture
• 53:10 Missing 411 Cases: Theories and Connections
• 1:02:00 Listener Questions and Wrap

Transcript

Brook: 0:21

Before we begin today's episode of the Black Curtain Club podcast, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own personal capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised.

Becca: 0:47

Hey there, friends. Welcome back to the Black Curtain Club podcast. My name is Becca and today I'm joined by Brooke for a wild Wendigo adventure. Tell me you're not excited, Brooke, I am so excited to talk about the Wendigos today.

Brook: 1:02

I love Wendigos so much and I know that we've talked about this episode so many times. It was so fun to write this and also like this is our first episode with just me and you, so it's like ah.

Becca: 1:16

I know, oh my gosh, this is the weird Becca. When Brooks around the weird Becca comes out and I love it so much and I really think that we're going to be talking about this episode for a long time after it's uploaded just because, like we were so excited for it to come, and before we get into it, I want to make sure everyone here that's listening is subscribed to the Black Curtain Club on all social media and go ahead and give us a rating and review, if you like today's episode. All right, are you ready to get wild? I'm ready to get Wendigo'd. Yeah.

Becca: 1:43

So we're going to start by going into the history of the Wendigo. This goes back all the way to, like the dawn of man. There are indigenous American legends of the Wendigo dating back to the forming of the many tribes. So what is a Wendigo? Essentially, it's said to be an evil spirit with human characteristics that has the ability to possess human beings and I'm picturing like a spiritual parasite. It's said to give its host a crazy amount of adverse side effects, like insatiable hunger and the inclination to commit murder, like what the heck I feel. Like spiritual parasite is such a perfect way to put that Right, cause it just latches onto you and just essentially takes over after an extended period of time. So the Wendigo is a major part of Algonquin culture and it's even included in the folklore of other North American tribes. It's associated with colder climates, famine and isolation.

Becca: 2:37

I'm going to read a quote from Basil H Johnston, who is an Ojibwe teacher from Ontario, and he says the Wendigo was said to be gaunt to the point of emaciation. Its desiccated skin pulled tightly over its bones, with its bones pushing out against its skin. Its complexion, the ash gray of death. Its eyes pushed back deep into their sockets. The Wendigo looked like a gaunt skeleton recently disinterred from the grave. What lips it had were tattered and bloody, unclean and suffering from separation of the flesh. The wendigo gave off a strange and eerie odor of decay and decomposition, of death and corruption.

Becca: 3:20

Whoa, first of all. That is horrifying. I feel like this teacher should be teaching a full class on Wendigos. He described them so well and like just the words he used. There's a lot of pushing and pulling and it's just. It's almost like you can see there's an inner battle and he really goes into the eyes and, oh, it makes like it upsets my stomach a little bit. Really goes into the eyes and, oh, it makes like it upsets my stomach a little bit. So there are other cultures that describe it as more of a giant. Some say the size of the wendigo is another part of the curse. Each time it eats its fill, the wendigo itself would grow in proportion to the meal, so they would always remain ravenously hungry, like full-on big back creepy, that's so creepy I know and imagine, like you see a little one and you know like, oh, this one's just starting out, it hasn't had its first meal yet.

Becca: 4:14

That's a fresh, that's a fresh windigo. You see a huge one. It's like oh no, oh no, you're like this one's yeah, this one's got skills. He's a legend in his own kind. Some descriptions of the Wendigo include a deer-like head with giant antlers, and this is the description that really scares me for some reason, just like the wrongness of it. It's said to be able to walk around bipedally but will go on all fours in a sprint Like just kill me, my God. Can you imagine getting chased by the deer Wendigo?

Brook: 4:49

Honestly more scared of the one without the antlers. Like when you told me that the one with the antlers scares you more, I was like I'm opposite. They're both spooky, but the deer one, to me, is not as horrifying.

Becca: 5:07

Still horrifying, though.

Becca: 5:08

It almost reminds me of like the imagery of the horned god, like in pagan deities. That's what my brain goes to, but it's just. I don't like the deer head. The deer head gets me. It's also been described as a winged creature that acts similarly to a bird of prey.

Becca: 5:19

Some legends claim you may hear the voices of people you know, a mockery of animal sounds or even an eerie howling wind accompanied by the rotting foul stench. And it said that if the windigo that flies gets you, it flies so fast that it essentially burns your feet when it takes you away through the air. And a lot of the legends I'm reading. It's talking about the extreme cold, the extreme cold and then it gets you and you're like my feet are on fire. Literally, my feet are on fire. It's going so fast. That really does something to me. Like I said, it always has that rotting foul stench.

Becca: 5:52

If you think about the locations this thing is said to inhabit, it's a lot of remote, desolate areas that get brutally cold in the wintertime and there are mentions of it in indigenous culture in areas like the Rocky Mountains, the Appalachian Mountains, pretty much areas where starvation is as seasonal as the weather forecast, so like when you can't have crops in the ground for a long time and it's just like we've run out of meat. I don't know. I think it's something that would be in the back of a lot of the early settlers' minds. Once food ran out and you're just looking around and all the people around you like which one of us is gonna get eaten.

Brook: 6:29

I'm almost like wondering how that could relate to current day, since our technology is so different that I feel like there's less people that are gonna accidentally like have to eat other people because they ran out of crops and meat. Also, shout out to the rocky mountains. That's where I'm from, that's where becca's from, um wendigo country wendigo country.

Becca: 6:52

You're from the tippy tip of the northern wendigo country and I'm like mid wendigo country. But yeah, this was definitely something that you see it mentioned a lot more back in the day than you do now because people were traveling a lot more dangerous journeys and like settling new places that you know hadn't been lived anywhere except for these indigenous tribes for so long. And yeah, like you hear about the donner party, like the oregon trail, all of that, the people that go up in the mountains and they get stuck like I can see why the wendigo was a lot more common knowledge back in the day than it is now. That makes sense to me.

Becca: 7:27

So, like all folklore, the legend of the Wendigo goes hand in hand with life lessons and morals. They've long been a symbol of greed and gluttony. It's almost like a fear tactic, it seems, in some cultures to keep from straying from what society deems as acceptable. To me it's like they have this perfect example of what could happen to you if you break the ultimate rule of people eating. And that's just my two cents from the research I've been doing. Like a lot of our nursery rhymes back in the day were like life lessons, like ring around the rosies is really about the plague. Maybe the Wendigo is just something to scare people into not being cannibals, you know.

Brook: 8:06

Like to me it's like what would make you want to eat another human. Honestly, like even if I was starving, I don't think I could do it. But you know, some people probably just have a better survival mechanism than I do.

Becca: 8:19

I so I have not been tested in this regard, but I genuinely feel that if I were in a survival situation, I would my brain would go to eating people much quicker than the normal humans. Sorry, I would immediately this plane crashed. I'm looking for, like who's the small one, who's who's not gonna be able to get away.

Brook: 8:42

I was just going to say, like that movie where that plane crashes and then like they eat the bodies of the people who died, that are their friends, do you think they? Got the spirit of the windigo in them?

Becca: 8:54

I would think so. And that, like it brings me to this other point, where maybe windigo is what happens to a human when they've had to cross that boundary. Like it got so desperate I literally had to eat somebody I knew and it kind of changed them and people are like man, old gary over here hasn't been the same since he got back from that trip. I wonder what happened.

Brook: 9:14

I heard he's a windigo now actually a true story that happened to like. Those people are probably still alive today.

Becca: 9:21

Yeah, I mean, imagine like people still go up to everest and shit like, yeah people are putting themselves in these situations all the time. Every time I watch survivor like I think of if this was a real survival situation, which one of these people would be eaten first would they be eaten by each other, or would they be eaten by an animal?

Becca: 9:40

that's another, a whole other situation that's why I could never be on Survivor. They'd have me on Rice for three days and I would already be like violent towards the others. They'd be like she's Wendigon, she's Wendigon. That kind of like perfectly sets me up for the next part. It's Wendigo psychosis, and this is something we were talking about before we started this episode. Was you told me there was a thing called Wendigo psychosis? I'm like I need to know more, so I dug a little deeper and so this is kind of what I have for you.

Becca: 10:15

It's a rare and controversial mental disorder. It's like officially recognized everything like that, where a person believes they are possessed by a Wendigo. The symptoms of Wendigo psychosis are an intense craving for human flesh, cannibalistic urges, paranoia, hallucinations and the belief that you have been possessed or you aren't really yourself. It's not really that surprising to me that there's an actual mental disorder attached to the dark entity that is the windigo. I can see where this creature has been such a prevalent icon in folklore and even modern pop culture. I feel like it's just like a reflection of how isolation and hard times can change a person. Like I was saying like once you cross that line and you've had to eat somebody, I have no problem believing that changes a person.

Brook: 11:04

Actually horrifying. I'm like do we have Wendigo psychosis, especially you right now? You're like, yeah, I would eat someone faster than anyone else. I'm like she's got an intense craving for human flesh and I think that leads into it.

Becca: 11:19

I'm a person that has been traumatized in my life. Maybe I do have Wendigo psychosis. I think that we've been talking about this episode for so long that we've given it to ourselves honestly, like we just, I think, breathe and sleep. Wendigo, it's all we're talking about.

Brook: 11:34

Like even when we call each other, we're just sharing scary stories about the Wendigo and terrifying ourselves every single new person I meet, I'm like you have to hear about the Wendigo today, like no, you don't get a choice. I'm telling you about Wendigo. You don't like scary stuff, that's too bad. I'm gonna tell you about this like cannibalistic being um. I also thought that Wendigo psychosis was just like a myth or like something that was made up for movies. So I'm like so shocked that it's actually a real mental disorder. Like what yeah?

Becca: 12:07

And it makes me wonder if, like, okay, here's my thing we're willing to label something Wendigo psychosis, implying that there isn't actually a Wendigo, but we'll name the psychosis after it. And the thing about the psychosis is, you think you've been possessed by a Wendigo, but we're not going to acknowledge that Wendigos are real. Right, this is just a thing that's happening in your head, like, how is that not just Wendigo? Like, how are they not just been Wendigo? Yeah, like, is there I don't know, maybe there's, maybe there's a difference when the Wendigo actually has you and Wendigo psychosis. If you have more information on this, please let us know down below. I think I think if you have Wendigo psychosis, it's a pretty, it's like a pretty good indication you got Wendigo. Maybe that's step one. So in the next segment, we've done some digging on the good old internet to find some scary, spooky Wendigo stories to kind of torture ourselves. At this point I think we've both got a pretty healthy fear of the Wendigo, so let's just go ahead and put another nail in the coffin, all right. So my little submission for a Wendigo story comes from a website called darkstoriesorg, and this is a submission from an anonymous user. I had to find a good old Appalachian story for our girl, angie, just to represent our little West Virginia girl. All right, let's get into it.

Becca: 13:37

It was an early Monday morning, cold and crisp. I had just begun to pack up for a week-long hunting trip. I had the tent and the bear traps packed into the back of the truck and tied up for a week-long hunting trip. I had the tent and the bear traps packed into the back of the truck and tied down with a couple of bungee cords. I began the long drive around 7 am.

Becca: 13:52

In order to get to our usual spot, my friend Clyde decided to tag along this time. It wasn't unusual for him to be interested in hunting, but this time he said something that I will always remember. Can I go with you this time? It'd be a shame if you went alone and never came back. He did sound confident in his words, but he was my best friend so I couldn't say no.

Becca: 14:14

We stopped for a little snack at the base of the mountains at a small gas station. There was an old man sitting outside in a rocking chair and he must have overheard me talking about the trip, as he also saw me in my camo and hunter's orange. He said something that shook me to my core. You'd better be careful up there in those mountains. It's about time for a windigo to come out. Being me a non-believer in the mountain folklore and horror stories, I brushed off the warning. Little did I know the trip would indeed be cut short due to an encounter I'll never forget. Like it's already scary. I'm already scared because of the creepy old man at the gas station I'm scared of clive.

Brook: 14:58

Clive is weird.

Becca: 14:59

I'm scared of clive yeah, I'm scared of clive, clive's scary. It was almost 6 pm and Clyde had turned on the radio. There was a rapid decline in grizzly bear population about this time of year every year. I had asked Clyde if we should be worried and he said not to worry about the grizzlies as we were about to go set up traps. I nodded my head in agreement and sighed a shaky sigh. It was 8 pm now and the sun was going down. I grabbed a flashlight and headed down the trail with my friend Clyde God fucking Clyde. We had walkie-talkies to stay in touch over long distances in case we got separated. They were for emergencies only, but we would occasionally use them to joke around. That is so us, brooke.

Brook: 15:51

I was actually going to say that I was like we would do the same thing. We would be playing, we'd be tricking each other, like whispering into it, like this is the Wendigo, it's me, it's me the Wendigo.

Becca: 16:03

It's me, it's me, the Wendigo. Okay, I had come to a small opening in between two bushes and decided to set up a trap there. I covered it up with branches and leaves and marked it with a stick, standing up out of the ground for extra precaution. On my trek to meet up with Clyde, I heard something almost like a scratching noise coming from my left side. I shined my light over to the side to see what it was. The noise stopped when the light flashed over the area. I walked closer to investigate and found four long scratches into a tree. Each of them were about an inch deep and a foot and a half long. I brushed off any ideas. I just went with the old bear story. About 30 minutes into the walk I heard a distant screech. Not much of a screech, as it was a roar. It sounded like the squealing of brakes on a freight train, mixed with the growl of a dinosaur. The fuck, I'm getting scared. Growl of a dinosaur. My radio came alive with Clyde's voice. Did you hear that? He asked me. His voice sounded shaky. He sounded scared. Me too, clyde. I decided to tell him to meet back up at camp Later that night. I told him.

Becca: 17:17

I was going to go check the traps, as a routine hunter would do. It was about midnight now. Invisibility was low due to the snowfall and darkness. I had come up to the trap that I had set earlier. Nothing seemed wrong, but the trap wasn't there. It was everywhere. It was ripped in half. The bolts and springs were lying everywhere. The leaves and branches were scattered. To the right of the trap was a game trail, about 30 feet from the field. I shone my light over there as I heard rustling leaves, and what I saw will forever give me nightmares. Okay, let me just prepare myself. What'd you see, man? It was a tall, eight foot humanoid creature with the long claws the size of my forearm. Oh no, each breath it took was heard from my position. About 30 feet away, it growled at me and began to slowly get down on all fours. Its limbs began to pop and crack into place as it leaned its body against a tree.

Becca: 18:22

Oh no, this is giving until dawn it slowly made its way back into the brush line, leaving me alone, or so I thought. My lights began to flicker and as it did, the creature must have become agitated. It began to speed walk towards me, each stride covering five feet in length. It outstretched its arms towards me, the high-pitched screech I heard before I heard again as the creature stopped six feet in front of me. It opened its wide jaws as it found no interest in the screech. Hold on. It opened its wide jaws as it found no interest in the screech slowly getting closer. Then I heard Clyde's voice from about 40 feet behind me, calling my name. I never felt such relief in my life. His approaching flashlight had caused the creature to return to the woods, with an evil hiss etching itself into my mind forever.

Becca: 19:27

When we got back to camp I tried to convince Clyde about how I saw the Wendigo, but all he did was laugh. He didn't believe in any supernatural entities or creatures. He said he wouldn't start now. I finally convinced him to pack up our things and leave, and when I got back home I stood on my porch and waved bye to Clyde and suddenly felt like I was being watched. Oh no, I stared into the woods across the road and saw it once more standing there staring at me. It shortly went back into the woods and I never saw it after that, though I do hear the screech from time to time To this day, I don't tell anyone else about it, afraid they won't believe me, and I never went up to the mountains again after that night. That was Okay.

Brook: 20:23

I have chest pain. So why did they set Clyde up for us not to trust him? It was fine this whole time. Clyde was not even the Wendigo and like the whole time I'm like, oh, clyde is gonna get this guy, you know like he's gonna transform and like it's gonna be a whole thing, and Clyde was just a normal guy.

Becca: 20:36

Clyde's voice wasn't Clyde and that's. I was convinced that wasn't Clyde. I was convinced he was gonna like look over his shoulder and it was gonna like lunge, but then we wouldn't have the story, yeah unless some miracle happened.

Brook: 20:51

That is um sorry, clyde for doubting you um. No, honestly like failure there, clyde, for doubting you Um you really got set up for failure there.

Becca: 20:59

Fuck Clyde for not believing him first of all.

Brook: 21:03

That was sad. But the question is at the end he said he feels like he's being watched, so does that mean he now has Wendigo psychosis?

Becca: 21:11

Does he now have Wendigo psychosis? I would say yeah. I mean, I think Wendigo's psychosis and being Wendigot are the same. At this point, how do we know that he's not a Wendigo? Now? I guess he would have to eat somebody, wouldn't he?

Brook: 21:26

But he might just not be telling us that he ate someone. Maybe he actually ate Clyde. Maybe this is a cover story.

Becca: 21:36

Okay, if you and I went out on our little hunting trip, I just want to know, if I told you I saw a wendigo and I wanted to go home, would you believe me and like, let me go home?

Brook: 21:47

Um yeah, I'd be like I'm not fucking around with that, let's leave.

Becca: 21:51

That's because you're a real friend. Fuck Clyde.

Brook: 21:54

Yeah, fuck, clyde. Okay, so I have two stories. One is one that I chose from the internet, just snatched it up right off the internet, and then the other one is actually a story from someone I from where I grew up, which is in the Rocky Mountains in Canada, called Woodsy and Remote, which is perfect, wendigo territory. So my first story I'm going to start with the one I pulled from the internet which is written by Robert Campbell and is found on short-storyme, and I am gonna just go into it. We were done making our rounds and heading home Walking. We'd cut through the woods. Then there was an opening and we'd come to it. There was blood everywhere, splattered on the trees, the grass, the creek, everywhere.

Brook: 22:36

At first we figured it was just a pack of wolves. We'd seen it. Sometimes they can scavenge and start hunting deer. The worst was when they breed with feral dogs, but it wasn't like that. They're going straight into it. Holy smokes, something had to run up a den of deer. Wolves don't attack a den. Coyotes won't either, because they'd get into too much of a fight. There was three bodies just torn apart. You'd see a head there, a leg there, a torso there. Predators don't do that. They don't really leave behind scraps. What had done this hadn't done it for food, they did it for fun. But we didn't know that we saw a bunch of carcasses and we think it's something we got to take care of.

Brook: 23:15

I remember telling my brother to go home because we thought it was a pack of feral dogs. But I wasn't leaving him and I damn sure wasn't walking through two miles alone without a knife and my flintlock Jeb had the musket and it was cocked. And it was cocked and full up ready and I wasn't going without it. It took me a while to convince him but finally we began tracking whatever did that. It wasn't going without it. It took me a while to convince him, but finally we began tracking whatever did that. It wasn't hard, we just followed the blood. Then I heard animals screaming, I heard deer, I heard fox, rabbits, raccoons, birds, all of them scared.

Brook: 23:48

This is maybe 12 or one o'clock at night, except some foxes and some birds. Nothing was supposed to even be awake. But they weren't just awake, they were moving. I saw a flock of birds that night fly straight into the trees just trying to get out of there. We came up on a pack of coyotes, nearly shot a couple, thinking that they were looking for us, but then we saw that they were not running towards us. They ran right past us and they didn't even notice us. Some deer did the same same with some rabbits, squirrels, foxes and even a couple wild hogs. These things were supposed to be eating each other and the only thing they cared about was getting the hell out of there.

Brook: 24:27

What we were tracking wasn't something we were supposed to see. It was something old and something we could not kill. I don't know why we didn't just go home. I think it was his nature to go towards trouble. We finally get into an open valley. It was normally a cornfield, but it wasn't in season, so it was just plain dirt. We saw the tracks then. A lot of animals fleeing the forest had paved over the land, but where the deer blood was, nothing had taken a single step, like they were leaving it for us to find.

Becca: 24:53

The tracks were shallow.

Brook: 24:57

The tracks were shallow, shallow, whatever. It couldn't have weighed more than 100 pounds, but that didn't mean much. A bobcat weighing 40 pounds nearly tore out my throat once. All that means is it's quick and hard to hit. So we follow the tracks. It doesn't take us long for us to find where it is. There's an old church that sits on top of a hill. Oh, oh, no, no, okay.

Brook: 25:22

We get within 50 yards and we hear this noise, a screeching kind of sound. Oh, it was sort of made up of two different sounds. One was a high-pitched screech and another was a low-pitched growl, but it was making both at the same time. That's like the other story. That's disgusting. I can like. I have the heebie jeebies I do too. We get within 20 yards and we hear the sound. I can remember thinking that it sounded like paper being torn apart while someone was swinging a water bucket back and forth.

Brook: 25:59

Jeb looks at me, kneels down, and whispers. I gotta stay behind him because we're about to corner him. Any animal will fight when it's cornered, especially when it's a predator. But we can tell by the tracks. It's just one. He tells me it's probably a single rabid dog. The plan is to sneak up on it while it's eating and shoot it and then keep shooting it until it doesn't move anymore and then slit its throat. That's really violent. If it gets to my brother, it's my job to shoot it or stab it to get it off of him.

Brook: 26:25

So he walks up. I'm right behind him, just a tad to his side, so I can see what it is. I wished that I hadn't. It was leaning over a carcass, tears off its flesh and throws what it didn't nibble at aside. There's blood all over the bricks, glistening in the moon white. The creature is pale, white, human looking, but not quite human. It had arms and legs like a human, but it was sitting like a monkey and kind of hunched over. Its hands were not normal. It had long fingers with claws at the end.

Becca: 26:57

This is awful, this is horrifying. The ripping paper and the bucket sloshing visual. Oh my god, I did not need that.

Brook: 27:06

The church scared me. I was like, oh no, no, no, no, Do not go in there. Why is there a church in the middle of the forest, in the middle of nowhere?

Becca: 27:13

Like what Well they were in the, the forest, then they were in a cornfield and now they're in a church okay, I left us on a cliffhanger.

Brook: 27:25

So we see that and my brother hesitates. He doesn't fire because we don't know if it's a person. So he clears his throat to try to get it to turn around. That was a bad mistake, brother. I swear to God. All the noise just ceased. I never heard true silence like that before and not after, but for two seconds nothing made any noise, which made it louder. When it turned around, it made this shrill cry and jumped. Jeb, if he hit the thing it didn't mind, but it was on him. Tears parts him, oh no.

Brook: 27:58

I started shooting it with the flintlock point blank, point blank. But it barely bled. I got three bullets and then I started hitting it with the gun butt, but it wasn't budging. It didn't even register that I was there. It was clawing at jeb, taking off bits of his flesh. It starts on on his torso, ripping off his skin, his chest, then it moves up. It tore off. Rest in peace, jeb. It tore out his throat. It tore off his nose. It tore out his eyes. It scalped him. It started digging in him, ripped off the bottom half of his jaw and the little bones, that tube into the neck and then his ribs.

Brook: 28:37

I don't exactly remember what happened, but somehow my brother's knife ended up in this thing's shoulder and Jeb ends up on my back. I'm running and by God I'm running faster than I'd ever run before. It follows me and I end up back in the woods opposite from the ones we'd been in. I'm headed towards my landlord's house because it's a half mile away. I can hear this thing screeching and moaning. I hear these trees, branches cracking and getting thrown around. It sounds like someone's taking an axe to every single tree I pass and it's cracking so loud and often, but I'm not looking back. Finally, I tripped into chopped wood.

Brook: 29:18

I look up and there's my landlord and a bunch of his buddies drinking brandy around a fire. I'm screaming and crying and they come over. I tell them to call for help and they look at me and I'll never forget what they said. What is that on your back, they asked. Just as he said it, he saw one of those god-awful wool shirts my brother wore everywhere. It was what was left of my brother most of his head, his torso, but nothing after his waist.

Brook: 29:44

Suddenly we hear it screeching. He grabs me. Jeb gets thrown onto the ground. I'm biting him, crying because I think I can still save him somehow, but my brother had been gone before I even picked him up. They had to pick me up and throw me inside before I came with them. Others and all were all inside and they're bolting the doors, getting their new muskets ready to go. The landlord asks me what happened. What happened? But I don't know what to tell him. He pieced it together to understand that there was something dangerous out there. The fire was still lit and just outside, through the dovetailed notches of the cabin wall, you could look and someone ran to call the. What is this word? Ran to call the sutre, the surete, the surete.

Becca: 30:34

Surete, I don't know, surete.

Brook: 30:43

And someone ran to call the sirete outside. We could see it in front of the fire. We don't know what it is. One of them says it looks like an ape. Suddenly something goes through the window. We shoot at it. But it ain't the thing. It's my landlord's dog. Oh my god. Just the body, though, not the head or the legs just casually dropping this hat on us.

Brook: 31:01

Whoa wow, we start pushing. We start pushing things in front of the doors and windows when we hear something around the back I remember it's one of his friends saying that the door was open. We hear wood getting ripped apart. It banged around some more but then it got quiet, not silent, like before. We could hear it move around and the guys were talking making sure the muskets were ready. Someone handed me one. No sooner did I cock hammer back, did we hear something shatter upstairs? Then we heard it screech again, except now it was louder and it didn't echo and fade out because it was inside.

Brook: 31:37

We all rushed to one door leading to the kitchen and push salting meats and drying apple pieces onto the ropes and they all fall on us and and we got to it just as that thing did. It opened the door just a bit and four or five men just slammed into it. It it got its hand through. Oh my god. Someone took out a rifle and took care of that, put the barrel right up to its wrist and pulled the trigger, cut its hand clean off. That only pissed it off, though it started pushing the door and clawing at it. We were on the side, pushing as best we could, and it was on the others to do the same. The wood just wasn't going to hold. So someone tells us to keep our heads down. Suddenly, the top half of the door is gone. My ears are ringing. There's splinters everywhere. Two or three of them just start unloading on top of the door. I don't really know where it went.

Brook: 32:33

After that the surete got there. I was still glued to that door. What was left of it? The sun was up before they got it off me. They put me in with the nuns for a while. A lot of people talked to me but I didn't talk back, not for a long time.

Brook: 32:47

When I got back home I got a job for the landlord working on the farm. We didn't talk much, not about that thing. But I signed up for the army when I was 18 and he sat me down to drink some brandy as a send-off. I asked him right away what the Sarete had told him. The story they went with was a wild animal, probably a wolf or bear, that had been hungry or protecting young. I asked how they could say that when they had the hand. He looks at me stunned. He tells me that hand never made it back to town. The sereta who had it died. The hand was never found, probably taken away by an animal. They said it was the paw of a bear that looked like a human hand. That is crazy. That was violent. I honestly did not read that full story going into it, rip jeb had no idea that was gonna to happen. I'm actually pretty bummed, jeb deserved better.

Becca: 33:41

Well, I mean like we don't really get told how old these boys are. But, my God, like coming upon the den, you see all the ripped up deer right and you're like I've got to find this thing. Oh my gosh Cannot relate, yeah.

Brook: 33:57

And not only that, but then he says he goes into the army after when he's 18. So they had to be like pretty young right a couple babies taken on the way. Yeah, and like when I first started reading this, I'm like, yeah, he's probably like in his 30s when this happened. And then I read the end, I'm like, oh, no, like that's a bummer, I think kind of old timey.

Brook: 34:18

It's hard to read like that, though. I'm like why is it written like a bummer? I like that. It's kind of old-timey. It's hard to read. Like that, though. I'm like why is it written like that?

Becca: 34:26

I feel like it's weird to read in my voice too, because my voice is so like dainty and girly, you're Canadian. This is very much like written in a southern accent. I feel Like the person was like writing how they talk and like, yeah, but oh, it's a good story though. Oh I was. I literally started shaking a little bit while you're reading that.

Brook: 34:43

I know, scared, that was actually really scary, that was wow.

Becca: 34:48

I was told you it's a scary episode. It's a scary episode.

Brook: 34:53

I actually had put the internet story before like the personal story, because I was like the personal one's probably going to be more scary than anything I can find on the internet. And now I'm like, oh, I don't know.

Becca: 35:03

Yeah but the personal story is scarier because you know the person. That's like actually real so the personal story.

Brook: 35:11

I'm not going to say the person's name who told me this, I'm just gonna give them the privacy. But yeah, we'll call him Frank. So when Frank was 14, frank was camping with his family and a bunch of family friends so pretty young and they wake up in the middle of the night and someone who's supposed to be sleeping in the tent with them is not in the tent. Um, she's missing. And they're like what the heck like did she go to the bathroom? And I think they kind of like had a's missing and they're like what the heck Like did she go to the bathroom? And I think they kind of like had a weird feeling. So they're like let's go looking for her. So they get out of the tent and they're walking around. They go to the bathroom to see if she's there. She's not there, she's not in the campsite. They check all the normal areas where someone who is camping could be Not anywhere. So they go, wake everyone up. They're like she's gone, like we don't know where she is, and they bring out everyone into the woods and they start looking around for her in the woods. Basically, they pair up and they're out there with whoever they paired up with.

Brook: 36:07

So Frank and his pair, I think it's actually like his best friend. They obviously have flashlights and they just like are scared, like they like, oh my god, like it feels like something's watching us, as many of these windigo stories say, like it just feels like there's something watching us, and I think that's a pretty common feeling in the woods. But honestly, it's like a different kind of something's watching us and their flashlight starts flickering, what like? When I'm thinking windigo, I'm not thinking that it's like a ghost or something. So when I when he told me like the flashlight started flickering, I'm like oh my god, like that's horrifying.

Brook: 36:49

And it went out for a second and it came back on and suddenly he said a human-like long creature ran in front of them on all fours and it just like ran up a tree. Like it just went up a tree and they were like nope, we're leaving. I don't know if it didn't see them or why it left them alone, but they ran away. They were like heck, no, ran into the tent and stayed in the tent and I was like, okay, so whatever ended up happening to the girl, like where was she?

Brook: 37:21

And they were like, yeah, when we got back to the tent. She was there and I was like, well, did she say where she went? Yes, I was like well, did she say where they went? And he was, like she just said that she went to the bathroom, but we were looking, like we had been looking for her, like in the bathroom, like obviously there was someone still in the tent. Like there's no way that that's the only place she could have been when there was so many of us looking for her in like the time span that that happened. And they're like, well, what else? And she's like she's like no, that's the only thing that happened. So like either she doesn't remember or like she's maybe not telling the truth oh, maybe like.

Becca: 38:02

Oh, that's scary or maybe she's possessed by the wendigo well, the thing about it is like, like I said, in the history they say it's it's more of a dark spirit and an entity than it is like a physical thing I think when he had told me this, it was before that I before I knew it was a spirit, like.

Brook: 38:21

I thought it was like multiple beings.

Becca: 38:23

Yeah, oh my gosh, like I grew up. I grew up in the woods and you're very right about like when you're in the woods in the dark, I don't know. Like it's like the forest is alive, it really is, and you feel eyes on you. It's, it's unreal. So I don't. I don't blame people. I don't blame people for being scared. I think he was very smart to run away. I think yeah I think so too. I'm glad he didn't try to climb the tree or whatever.

Brook: 38:49

Whatever I told him he's probably very lucky to be alive. I was like that thing obviously left you alone for a reason, or maybe it just didn't notice. Maybe it was a stupid one and it didn't notice them.

Becca: 39:03

Yeah, I wonder how big it was. That would give us an idea of like its resume, like how good it is at being a wing to go.

Brook: 39:10

Yeah, he said it was really long. Like he said, it was probably like seven or eight feet oh, I hate that like it was, like the idea of a long human yeah, he said it was like too tall to be a human really, but it was like you know how they describe it like lanky, uh kind of human like features, but it's also running around like an animal well, they really describe it as like a golem, almost yes, it's kind of like a giant gong.

Brook: 39:37

Yeah, all right, I am going to move us into the Wendigo in pop culture, which I am so excited to talk about. I have not been able to shut up about this lately, actually probably for years, so Wendigos have become increasingly popular in film and games over the years. The first time I ever heard of a Wendigo was when I was around 14 and discovered the TV show Supernatural. In the second episode, sam and Dean encounter a Wendigo. The form of this Wendigo seems to be the long, lanky, bald one that we talked about first, and it possibly could have been the flying one as well, just like the way it was filmed back then. I think we don't really know for sure because, like, the graphics are a little funky, uh, but it could have been a flying one. It's actually still one of my favorite episodes until this day, um, and it was released in 2005 and it's 2025 now, so it's actually 20 years old yeah, 20 years old.

Becca: 40:35

And you're right. Like the graphics, you can't really tell what it looks like. It looks like a brown smear just kind of comes into frame and scoops somebody away, but it is definitely one of the best episodes.

Brook: 40:44

I only find three movies that starred the Wendigos as their spooky antagonist that I could come across on the internet. Then, in 2015, the video game Until Dawn came out. While I was working at GameStop, I saw the trailer and I was like I actually cannot wait to play this game. I was waiting forever and it blows my mind that this was already 10 years ago during my plate first plate holy smokes, can we talk today? During my first playthrough, I was extremely shocked, horrified, happy, um excited, to know that the creature that was hunting us was a wendigo. Sorry for the spoilers if you haven't played it, but honestly, your tenure is overdue.

Brook: 41:43

The Wendigo in this game took its long disproportionate form again, and the Until Dawn video game actually exceeded its expectations on how well they had expected the game to do when it was released. Do you think that Until Dawn caused Wendigo mania and do you think that other companies want to profit off the wendigo lore because of the wendigo mania?

Becca: 42:06

I think definitely like the way things trend nowadays on social media and like any other general media. It's like once something is hot and it's getting a lot of traction, everybody's gonna try to copy it.

Brook: 42:18

I definitely think it brought back Wendigo fever for sure and then, after Until Dawn, there was a couple Wendigo movies that came out. Then, in 2020, a movie called the Retreat came out. I actually just watched this a couple weeks ago, which was where I first heard of Wendigo psychosis, and this actually features the a couple different types of Wendigo, so it has your lanky one. That's kind of like the original one to me, but then it's got like your smart, spiritual one, which is the one with the antlers, and then the lanky ones in this movie are kind of not smart, like they seem new. They're still wearing human clothes and then when I watched this movie, I felt it didn't do the Wendigos justice, but I did think that it did an amazing job twisting Wendigo psychosis into the story and it's like an amazing psychological thriller. You cannot tell what's going on in this person's head in this movie what's real, what's not real. So this is where I first heard about Wendigo psychosis and I was like Becca, have you ever heard about wendigo psychosis before I?

Becca: 43:24

had not.

Brook: 43:24

You blew my mind and I thought this was just made up for this movie. Like I didn't know, this was a real thing. So after this movie, in 2021, there was kind of a wendigo movie explosion where a bunch of wendigo movies were made, including including the AAA title called Antlers, which is when the Wendigo spirit takes on its form, when it's that horrific deer one, the Antlers creature, is attacking a family in the woods. Do you think that the Wendigo mania is actually caused by some type of shared collective Wendigo psychosis and, if so, do you think that the reason it's causing this is because we, like want to find answers about the Wendigo and be able to understand this, being that we're so horrified and mysterious to us?

Becca: 44:03

I'm going to say I think I've said this to you before Wendigo is like the game Once you think of it, you've lost the game. Once you think Wendigo, you've got Wendigo, psychosis Like it's just that's how it gets you, and it's's almost like almost like the ring movie where three, seven days nobody new has to watch the movie or you die. Like you have to get somebody else to get when to go psychosis. It's like your obligation. They're just mass infecting us I'm okay.

Brook: 44:30

I'm honestly infecting a lot of people right now. Then, because this is like something I'm like not shutting up about, join us. Um, since the antlers movie, a few more Wendigo movies have been made. There was one in 2022 called Just the Wendigo I have not watched that one, but I'm going to watch it pretty soon. And in 2024, it was actually announced that Until Dawn would make a movie adaption to its game. This has been rumored to happen years before. I remember hearing the rumors and being like yes, please make sure it's real, please be real, I really want it to be real, like I need this. And then so when I, when it officially got announced, I was so excited. I've been waiting for so long and I'm so happy that in april 2025, until dawn will be released into theaters. I plan on seeing the movie for my birthday and from the trailers, it looks like it's actually like a Groundhog's Day or a Happy Death Day type of situation, but obviously, with Wendigos, I do have a few feelings about the trailers, but we're going to talk about that later.

Becca: 45:35

Before we move on from movies, I want to bring up a wendigo movie. I know you haven't seen, it's okay. It's called frostbiter wrath of the wendigo. This movie came out in 1995. I've seen it like a handful of times. I think this might have been like the first place I ever heard of a wendigo. The graphics are horrible but it really goes into like the mystical magic side of the w windigo where he like affects the environment around him and kind of like he's hunting this cabin full of people and putting them through like psychological horrors. But it's claymation also, like when the windigo is on screen. They didn't have like computer generating graphics, so it's a claymation, wendigo, it's just so bad.

Brook: 46:20

From the perspective of the Wendigo, though.

Becca: 46:23

No. So a woman starts having visions of the Wendigo and she's like I got to go to this place and solve this mystery. And she like stumbles upon people that have been stuck in a cabin because the Wendigo is like torturing them. At one point a bowl of chili comes to life and sings a song about being chili. It's supposed to be a very serious movie, so I was confused by the chili scene.

Brook: 46:45

But when you've got claymation wendigos, I guess there's no rules man, I'm such like a cgi person I know like a lot of people hate on cgi but like that movie I'm gonna watch it. But it's gonna be really hard for me to watch. Like I'm gonna be like, oh my god, but hopefully the storyline's good enough, hold on one second.

Becca: 47:02

My dog is freaking out. I'm gonna let her into the room. Do you hear her, okay?

Brook: 47:07

yeah it's okay, is Ruby getting scared of the wendigo?

Becca: 47:11

oh my gosh. She like howled and it scared me. Okay, I'm sorry'm sorry, keep going.

Brook: 47:20

Okay. So in pop culture, after we thought about it we realized that there's definitely characters that fit the Wendigo mold, that aren't necessarily traditional Wendigo movies or traditional Wendigo TV shows. So first of all, jeepers Creepers. Jeepers Creepers is a horrifying old movie where this very scary and gross looking man creature hunts and kills people to eat their body, pieces of their body parts, to kind of generate his own body parts.

Brook: 47:48

In episode two of season one of Supernatural it is stated that the Wendigo has returned to eat after 23 years. We learn from Dean that the Wendigos have superhuman speed and superhuman strength. We learn from Dean that the Wendigos have superhuman speed and superhuman strength. And it's also stated that they store bodies that they've captured during their time. In the 23 days they have, they capture them and keep them with them in hibernation so that they can eat throughout the period. So in Jeepers Creepers the creature I guess the Jeepers he also returns every 23 years for 23 days to capture people. He eats their body parts, he stores them and he eats parts of them as he needs to during the time he's hibernating. Some of them are even still alive when he takes the body parts out and he sells them back up. Jeepers creepers is also extremely strong and extremely fast. He's taller than everyone else and he has wings. Do you think Jeepers Creepers is a Wendigo?

Becca: 48:45

When you first brought this to me it blew my mind and I keep saying that this episode but Brooke is always blowing my mind, but I definitely like once you said is Jeepers, Creepers, a Wendigo, and I started thinking about it.

Brook: 48:57

He has to be right, like at least loosely based on the wendigo yeah, I feel like the more I think about it, the more evidence I can find that he is a wendigo, because at first for me it was like well, it's just every 23 days for 23 years, so he must be a wendigo. And like he eats people. But then I'm like finding about the hibernation and how they store the bodies and like the human speed and strength and stuff like that.

Becca: 49:21

I'm like, oh my god, like he's totally a wendigo and like thinking of jeepers, creepers too, when they're all trapped on the bus and how some of them, like, start to go crazy. And there's even one that, like, leaves the bus knowing that it's out there and, like, comes and scoops away. That could have been like his psychosis that he causes oh my god.

Brook: 49:41

Okay the second one. They both scared me so bad. Like both, those movies are so horrifying. Okay to the point.

Becca: 49:47

Every time I see like a big rusty truck, every time I see like a school bus and every time I see a scarecrow, I think of Jeepers Creepers. I watched that movie way too, young yeah, same.

Brook: 50:00

It's like it's like a trauma experience. If you watch it when you're young, it's like a trauma, but then you learn to love it yeah, because it holds up.

Becca: 50:07

It holds up really well, for how old?

Brook: 50:09

it is I love. Jeepers, creepers it's really good I might watch Jeepers Creepers tonight. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Becca: 50:15

You have a lot of movies to watch tonight. I know I'm like I'm going on a wendigo marathon tonight we thought this would get it out of our system, but now it's just like increased our wendigo psychosis it's like, yeah, it's like giving more of an obsession.

Brook: 50:27

It's like this is my current obsession. Okay, and then we have the rake. The rake was invented by some collaborators. On reddit, under creepypasta, there are photos of the rake. When I first saw the photos I just thought it was like a crazy, scary creature. And I was told that it was caught on someone's deer cam and I was like, oh, that's creepy, it's probably a wendigo. I became so obsessed with the image that I actually used this for my profile photo for a while on facebook because I was like forced selfie. And then I actually recently found out that this photo is the rake, which I thought was a wendigo for all this time, and the similarities of the look of the wendigo and and the rake, which is what led me to wonder if is the rake a wendigo also? And then so I started to review the rake's original story In 2003,.

Brook: 51:18

The rake sightings were reported all over the northeastern states in the summer. They stopped after the summer and the rake was described as human-like but also animalistic distorted, hairless, lanky, long and even, in some cases, slimy. It was stated before the creepypasta began that there was over 2,000 reported sightings of the rake dating back to the 12th century. Some found the creature absolutely horrific, but some were finding it playful, which is interesting.

Becca: 51:49

Oh, my god playful yes.

Brook: 51:53

If the rake was there in 2003, that means he's returning next year, so we might see some rake stories next year or some one ago stories next year the rake, jeepers, creepers crossover.

Brook: 52:03

We didn't know we needed so in the rake story it is stated that the person who was speaking about the rake was writing a suicide note because they couldn't get the rake out of their mind for years and years, and they stated that they knew with their whole hearts that the rake was watching them every single night while they slept. The story stated that the rake had shown up covered in blood years previously and attacked the daughter, didn't kill her, but unfortunately the daughter and the father did pass away because during their drive to the hospital the car crashed into the lake. Some similarities I'm seeing between the rake and the Wendigo is obviously the appearances, their hunger for blood, blood. But the thing that is giving me wendigo is the psychosis that this person who is writing their note over the rake being like, I know for a fact that the rake is watching me. I know the rake is here, but has never once woken up in all these years to actually see the rake there. Um, so I'm wondering like do you think that this person's experiencing wendigo psychosis?

Becca: 53:00

I knew about the rake for a very long time and I never knew if I'd get a chance to talk about him. This thing is definitely a wendigo. I think it's a hundred percent a wendigo and I thought that when I first kind of heard the stories about him, only because of, like I said, like that mental effect that he has on people not that there's necessarily like cannibalism involved, but it seems like the fear mongering and like making its victim feel like prey for so long and dragging it out like that that feels very windigo to me.

Brook: 53:29

I think that was definitely a case for windigo psychosis do you think the rake is one being or is it multiple beings? And if it's one being, like, it's got a cool nickname for itself.

Becca: 53:38

He's like yes, I'm the rake I think with these things we have to assume they're one until we see a group of them together, because we don't know what kind of mystical powers they have. Like they could appear like one place and then appear somewhere else the next. But until I see two windigos or two rakes at the same time, I'm gonna assume they're like their own little entity I better not ever be seeing one wendigo, not to mention a bunch of them at the same time yeah okay, yeah, uh, last on our list for wendigo in pop culture and things that are constantly talked about, we have the missing 411 cases.

Brook: 54:18

Missing 411 is a collection of cases in a book that was written by David Paulides, who is a former police officer. On many of these cases, the cases cover people who have disappeared seemingly out of thin air and have no explanation. Some were found miles away from where they disappeared. Some had passed. Some were alive In the time frame that had passed since the moment they went missing. There wouldn't really be a way for them to get that far away. It's just like an impossible amount of time.

Brook: 54:55

There haven't been any sightings of any creatures when this happened, but some of the ways people disappeared make me think that something that was definitely not a normal animal took them, and I think that's kind of like. The whole point of the missing 411 is like it's not normal. Um, there was one guy who they stated was at the back of a group, like they were all walking and he was at the back of them. Suddenly they turned around and he wasn't there anymore, but they never heard any kind of scream. They never heard him walk away, nothing. But the weird part was that there was a bunch of like change and items from his pocket that had fallen on the ground, as if he had been like turned upside down wow, he got mugged by the wind.

Brook: 55:35

Go, he took his lunch money there was a baby who unfortunately went missing, and I think the baby was missing for maybe an hour or two hours and they found the baby five miles away from where the baby had gone missing. The baby was alive and it was unharmed. But there's no way a baby could have gone five miles in that amount of time and like not only that, but like still be alive Crawling around for that long and like had gone five miles, yes, I know.

Brook: 56:10

And then there was an instance where they unfortunately found someone who did pass, that had gone missing, in kind of like this weird circumstance where they didn't hear anything, they didn't see anything, no, crunching footsteps, nothing, no, extra footsteps, nothing, um, and like a few months later they found them. Actually, no, I don't think they found their body, but they did find their clothes and it was weird because they had whatever put their clothes here, had like arranged it for the pants to be as if the person would have been sitting on the rock and the shoes were like underneath the pants, as if it was just like had its feet on the ground, like it was like as if the person was there just without their clothes, or the body wasn't there, but like the clothes were like in the position where it would have just been like sitting there, yeah, but they like never found a body. They never found the person, but like why? And like months later, like why? And then this one's so horrifying to me.

Brook: 57:08

This one is the one that gives me a big no, no, no, like it's just a full no for me, like I don't ever want to be around these things. I what, even if it's not a wendigo, I'm not going to be around and, whatever, it is better not be coming at me. There was a child that went missing and they were looking for it. The police came and then they weren't able to find the child. But there was a group of hikers a couple miles from where the child had gone missing that were hiking near a cave and this had been like during the same hour that the child had gone missing. So like the fact that it was like during the same hour is like that kid is already like too far away for it to have been possible to get there on its own alive, safe well, I mean this part it's not even safe anyway.

Becca: 57:57

But to be alive essentially, yes, alive.

Brook: 58:03

And they see the cave and it's like far enough away that they're kind of like, okay, like there's a cave, we can see the entrance a little bit, and they see a child and they said that the child looked upset and suddenly the child gets grabbed. They said they cannot see by what grabs it and yanks the child back into the cave. Oh, and they pulled on. I know they pulled a full nope and got out of there, which I don't blame them, but how are we feeling? Do we think that these missing 411 stories? Are some of them wendigos? Are some of them just weird spiritual things that happen, um, are some of them demonic, like it's like a whole crazy thing?

Becca: 58:46

it definitely is crazy. It's just one of those mysteries where I think that you could put almost any of these like mystical things and that would give you an answer for what's happening with this 411 situation. I remember when this came out the missing 411 and they published that map of all of the people that had gone missing in and around national parks in that area and I swear it looks like that t-mobile coverage map with like all of the dots, like so many people for so long have been going missing in and around these national parks. That's what gives me such like a strong belief in like bigfoot and the jersey devil and the wendigo and all of these things, like I think they're a little pocket communities where these things that we don't understand still live in the woods and people get got, sometimes fully.

Brook: 59:41

That's what I think they get when they go. They got when they got when they got.

Becca: 59:44

Yeah, when they got your ass.

Brook: 59:51

What if it's just like, honestly, all of the other worldly creatures are just like, all like working together, like they're all just like hanging out together and they're like, yeah, like let's go capture some humans. Today I could see that being a possibility I don't want to think that.

Becca: 1:00:06

I don't want to think that, though, because I want to believe that some of them are good it's weird how much technology we have and still how little understanding we have of the world we live in I know, uh, that's like a scary thing that we can get into.

Brook: 1:00:20

It's almost like I can't get proof. It's like we don't have the technology to get the proof we need I feel like it's because, like spiritual and otherworldly, technology are kind of ridiculed, so it's like not people don't really focus on it, like technology is, so it's used for finding out physical evidence in the physical world that we live in right, and it doesn't really know what to do with interdimensional nonsense that we seem to be stumbling into yeah us humans.

Becca: 1:00:49

We're good at stumbling onto this shit apparently, um, according to missing 411.

Brook: 1:00:59

Yes, these interesting, horrified but also almost beloved characters. We're close to the end of our episode, so we'd love to hear from everyone who listened to today on the following question what were your favorite parts of the episode? What do we think about the Until Dawn movie? I did express that I had some feelings about this. I'm feeling a little bit like the point of Until Dawn is that you don't regenerate in the game. If you want to restart, you have to completely restart your whole entire game. So the fact that they've given it this Groundhog's Day twist to it, I'm like, oh, like. I don't know how I'm going to feel about that, but I am still really excited. I'm definitely still going to watch it. Hopefully it's good. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint me. Hopefully it does the game justice.

Becca: 1:01:48

I'm in the same boat with you in Until Dawn. Like I've seen so many video games be made into movies and they're guilty of the same sin every time and it's always like, well, this was a good movie if it wasn't related to the video game. It's like you took the basic idea behind the video game but you made something completely different with it and you just put the name of the game on it to get us idiots to watch it. I mean, I'm sure it's going to be a great movie, but I'm not looking forward to the whole.

Becca: 1:02:12

Groundhog Day aspect.

Brook: 1:02:13

I agree with you. All right. Do you guys think that becca and I are going to be able to sleep tonight? And what would we do if we encountered a windigo in a wild? Or what would you do?

Becca: 1:02:23

I said this to angie we were planning up this episode that of all the people in the black curtain club, you and I, are the most likely to try to seduce the windigo if it was coming after us it's so true I'd be like, oh when, hi Long and lanky, just my type.

Brook: 1:02:42

Oh, what big hands you have. Big hands, big feet. You know what that means. All right, so there you have it. Becca and Brooke have taken on the Wendigo and survived. To tell the tale.

Becca: 1:03:01

Wait, wait, wait, wait. How do I know this is Brooke speaking and not some Wendigo trick?

Brook: 1:03:05

I guess everyone will have to tune in next week to find out. Remember, the Black Curtain Club releases new podcasts every Monday at midnight, so be sure to rate and subscribe and comment down below what you thought of this episode and what kind of episodes you'd like to see in the future. We'll see you next time.

Becca: 1:03:20

Thanks for listening, and if you have any tips on how to figure out if your friend has been possessed by a Wendigo, dm me. I have some questions. Bye, we got it All right. I'm stopping this bitch. Oh my God.