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What happens when melody meets memory? When rhythm intertwines with our very identity? This episode delves into the profound ways music shapes who we are, leaving permanent imprints on our hearts and minds.
Kyle and Angi embark on an emotional journey through our personal musical landscapes, exchanging stories that range from heartwarming to tear-jerking. We explore how the songs our parents played became the foundation of our musical education, and how discovering our own musical passions helped define our identities. From childhood influences like Fleetwood Mac and Shania Twain to self-discovered loves like Sleep Token and Bullet For My Valentine, we reveal how music soundtracked pivotal moments in our lives.
The conversation takes fascinating turns as we explore "soul mirror" songs – those tracks that perfectly reflect different aspects of who we are. We examine how film scores create sacred emotional spaces, how concert experiences forge unforgettable bonds, and how certain songs become lifelines during our darkest hours. There's particular focus on bands that defy categorization, with Sleep Token emerging as a transformative musical force that blends multiple genres into something entirely new.
Most powerfully, we share intimate stories of how music healed relationships and created bridges between generations – from a father witnessing his son perform on stage to a daughter playing a beloved film score. As one host's middle school music teacher wisely observed: "Before you were anything in this world, you were music."
Whether you're a casual listener or passionate audiophile, this episode will remind you of music's extraordinary power to shape our lives, heal our wounds, and connect us to our deepest selves. What songs have shaped you? We'd love to hear your musical story in the comments.
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Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised. Intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome back to the Black Curtain Club, where we talk about pop culture, cryptids, murder, chaos and everything in between. So today, kyle and I are delving into a subject we both are incredibly passionate about, something that really gets into your bones, and that is music. So we're going to do a deep dive in the music that shaped us, saved us, made us dance, made us cry, scream in the car or do that thing where you stare dramatically out the window during rainstorms. Basically, this is going to be our unofficial live soundtracks what we grew up on, the artists we'd fight somebody over, uh, the ones that haunt us, and maybe a few hot takes that we're going to regret. So, kyle, you ready for this?
Speaker 3:Yeah, hello, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, I am. I don't think I've ever been as ready, if I'm being completely honest.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:Well, I would say, cue the music, but we're poor, we're a baby podcast and we're too poor to have licensing rights. So I did, just to kind of keep us on track a little bit, have just some questions that I kind of drew up and we'll just see where the conversation takes us. So I think, first, let's start at the very beginning, right, where else are we going to start?
Speaker 3:So let's see. So, if we're going to do this in nine sections, let's start at number four. Let's do the George Lucas route. We'll do it in nine sections, start at four, wait 15, 20 years, you know in the beginning yeah so what kind of music were you raised on as a child?
Speaker 3:let's see, probably when I say a mix of god, everyone says you listen to everything except like one genre. But that really was like what I was raised on, but I guess I think from my father mainly like 70s and we'll say like 60s, 70s and some 80s bands and groups and musics his big ones I can probably take it to the entire discography of Rush, bob Seger, fleetwood Mac and the Eagles. Thanks to him, I love all of those and my mother, if there was one. If there's one thing that I got from my mother music wise, it is my deep love and appreciation in the entire discography of Shania Twain.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? Oh, oh, we're gonna have conversations. Then, oh shit, we just started. We're what? Four minutes in that even Right conversations? Then, oh shit, we just started, we were what? Four minutes in, not even right. That woman is a goddamn saint and I don't care what your personal problems with her, I love her, I love her music, but also I got like some I want to say my mom was my first introduction to like the quote unquote, like the rebellious air quote unquote 80s music. So like my mom, thanks my mom. I got like def leppard, ozzy, acdc oh, wow yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 3:All the hair bands too, guns and roses. My mom listened to a lot of that when she wasn't like allowed to and like my grandmother yelled her turn the devil's music off. Oh yeah, you've never met her, but that is a spot-on impression on my grandmother. Love you, ma.
Speaker 2:But yes, I got a lot of that music from my mother that's awesome it's pretty great yeah, because I mean we I guess sometimes we associate that kind of rebellious music with the men folk, but that's awesome yeah, your mom sounds like a pretty rad woman.
Speaker 3:My mother is a fucking trip and I say that with all the love in the world. My mom's both my parents are. I can't even say that they are.
Speaker 2:They are trips yeah, I mean I similar. You know, I I had a little bit of exposure but I I feel like I mostly had to kind of forge my own way. So like I come from like a very musical family, especially like well on both sides, I will say like my mom's dad was a very musical family, especially like well on both sides. I will say, like my mom's dad was a very talented bluegrass musician On my dad's side everyone you know gets around and plays bluegrass music.
Speaker 2:So I was exposed to that early on and my parents are kind of country music freaks I'm so sorry so I, unfortunately, was exposed to a lot of country music um and a lot of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of their music, some of the 70s. So I kind of like really had to dig in and figure shit out on my own. I can remember being very young and like discovering, like David Bowie and Prince and the Rolling Stones and Michael Jackson and all of these greats.
Speaker 2:like you know, on my own and you know kind of, I kind of probably identify like maybe with your mom a little bit, because being raised not to, like you know, bring a lot of religion into this. But you know, I was raised um a j-dub and so like there was a lot of music we were not allowed to listen to or supposed to listen to. Yeah, you know, like Michael Jackson was a, it was interesting because like it went on a rail against Michael Jackson's music and then he converted to be a J-Dub.
Speaker 1:He did, he did yeah.
Speaker 3:Was it like right after bad too, like kind of? Like yeah oh yeah, holy shit that's right and they're like oh shit, I guess we have to take that back now yeah, so it's not like you know.
Speaker 2:I have an older brother, um, and so probably you know, just picking up music that he was into, discovered stuff of my own. It wasn't like, um, I had this great crowd of people growing up with um that I could, you know, share the latest Prince song with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I get it. No, that's, that's how I discovered a lot of my I guess the music I listen to now. Jeez man Shout out to my homie CJ Love you, dog, even though you're my cat. He was the first work brother in arms in the trenches friend that you made. Everyone's got at least one person that you worked like the crappiest job with that, like you would have. Literally like the shady. Just my motherfucking man.
Speaker 3:Pots and pans, right I can't tell you how many bands that I listen to now and I absolutely love and adore that he's introduced me to, and like whether they're overrated, underrated. I only like that one song by them um, it was like that, but also like the whole warp tour uh scene, which we'll get into that later in my little notes.
Speaker 3:Same thing that was just so but a lot of it was just that was, um, you know you, just you hit that one age. You just kind of whatever's on the radio, whenever, like you know, whatever your parents listen to is what you listen to, and you kind of find your own things and you just kind of work off of that and then you just have that one.
Speaker 3:Then, exactly, then it's then you start to realize which genre you like, that you do your own research and you just kind of dig into that. Um, but luckily enough I had enough friends who were very passionate about different genres of music. We all had this one thing that we all hated country music. Um, yes, thank god yeah, so, like my buddy, so, so, so, like cj was like the hard rock, the heavy metal, the stuff that anyone would label air, quote, unquote, that screaming shit yeah, he was like he was my.
Speaker 3:You know, he was the ferryman on that journey. He was my karan for that one um another, my good friends, nick, he kind of. He showed me a lot more of like 80s bands because of his brother, his brother's a little bit older than him, and so because of him I learned of I mean like starting to have just Ozzy himself, but I learned of shit Sabbath, metallica, judas Priest, pretty much any of the other rest of the 80s bands I learned you know that's where I was first interested Motley Crue, how Much Poison Sucks, genesis and so on.
Speaker 2:How Much Poison Sucks?
Speaker 3:yeah, just from that one, I had one friend who was like my guiding light, which I feel very fortunate, and yeah, I don't want to say who was like my guiding light, which I feel very fortunate, and yeah, I don't want to say blessed, because that just sounds like bitch. But you know, I'm very, very thankful that I have plenty of people in my life who are just as passionate about music and we all just kind of learn from each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I will say you have. You have definitely given me some music to try and listen to for the first time. Oh, we're just getting started.
Speaker 3:We're just getting started. There's a bunch of bands I still don't understand because they're in different languages that I love.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:But I know that you would very much appreciate them. I can't even pronounce their names. Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what do you think kind of defines you? Now, I mean, I think I know the answer to this question, but I'm curious to see what you say. Is the music that, I guess, the music genre that defines you?
Speaker 3:The genre that defines me, the one that I listen to the most resonate most, or all of it? Um, I guess depends on which generation you ask. Because, like I said, because people would say rock, hard rock, heavy metal, that screaming shit, anything that kind of falls under that umbrella.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I think that I think the big umbrella, like if you were to cut into what is like the, the five main, four or five main music groups, has to be rock is what? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Yeah, same. I think I mostly listened to rock, alt rock Well, they call it alt rock now. In the 90s it was alternative.
Speaker 1:It was alternative.
Speaker 2:Heavy metal. But I will say I seem to go through sometimes these weird phases where all I want to do is just soak up some film scores or classical oh yes, was like just soak up like some film scores or classical, and then, like I go through these phases where I just want to do nothing but 80s or 90s, or you know, I'll pop, yeah, yeah, I just.
Speaker 3:But rock is what I always, always go back to yeah, it's, it's definitely the, it's the, it's the safety, safe, it's that home. And what's funny is that there's so many. He's like what are you listening to? I listen to rock music. I listen to metal music. One of my friends was trying to explain to them that it's not really easy to just define he goes what, and all I thought of was the scene from Forrest Gump with Bubba, and I did it in his voice. What is black metal metal, slam metal, thrash metal?
Speaker 1:like and.
Speaker 3:I just went and I think I named off like 30 different types of genres of metal. There's new metal, old metal, new school, old school. You can pan fry, stir fry, deep fry. I just went and they were like, okay, we get it. Glam metal, hair metal, black metal, power metal metal, metal, metal metal.
Speaker 3:There's uh viking metal, there's goblin metal, yeah the fuck is goblin metal to my knowledge, there's one and only one band in Goblin Metal, and that is the band Necro Goblikon, and a lot of the music is just it's just metal, kind of what you would expect. It's exactly what you'd expect, and they are awesome. They're fantastic. I love them, bastards.
Speaker 2:I think I saw there. It's like metal jazz or jazz metal. Have you ever heard that?
Speaker 3:That I have.
Speaker 2:That is some wild shit.
Speaker 3:It's fun, isn't it? Because it's like I think what's really interesting is when you get like a metal band, not so much like jazz metal, because it's funny, because you get like that fun like finger snapping, foot tap tapping, like jazz sporties, swing club kind of music, but then there's like a filthy breakdown in the middle, which is great.
Speaker 3:Yeah which is great, yeah, but what's really fun is when you get like people who are. You get some musicians that are trained in certain ways, like different type of styles and techniques, and then they bring it to a different genre. So at least one of the ones that probably hopefully a lot of our listeners and anyone with a functioning brain um hater to love it here's one of those bands. I guess that gets a lot of hate now, um avenge sevenfold oh yeah their lead guitarist is a.
Speaker 3:His main um style, his picking style is playing style, so he's a jazz guitarist. He's a jazz musician, um, but he plays for avenge sevenfold. So a lot of his like arpeggios and a sweet picking and the tremolo picking and the dive, his, the infamous dive bombs that he does, that's all jazz techniques, it's all jazz work and he throws it into a hard rock heavy metal band and it's gorgeous huh, I'll have to go back and listen for that.
Speaker 2:It's probably just one of those things. It's layered and you don't think to listen for it oh yeah, oh yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 3:Oh, it is, it's not. It's incredibly well hidden, and that's one of those things Once you see it or once you hear it, you can't unhear it, and then you're just mad at yourself. How the fuck did I not hear that? How did I not pick up on that?
Speaker 2:You get so mad at yourself for it. So what do you feel like? I know like I have certain artists that I go to all the time and these are kind of like I don't know. They just feel like home um and I know you know what I'm gonna say, for my first one is uh, sleep token.
Speaker 3:I was about to say it's like can I guess?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:No. I can't see that, which, which, which uh before you uh start going. I will bestow my many thanks upon you for introducing me to that band.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Or at least finally, you know uh, figuratively holding a gun to my head and say fucking, listen to them.
Speaker 2:I was like all right, fine, yeah, but I think I got you with the lore. When I told you about the lore, I think that was like you were like fuck yeah, I gotta check this out now, Because any band with a lore.
Speaker 3:Anything with lore. I'm telling you anything with lore. You give me the story, that's oh.
Speaker 2:Anywho, go ahead, tell me about sleep token, tell us yeah, oh my gosh, I think they're just like this once in a generation band, right? I think you know, in 30 years from now, people will talk about them the same way that people talk about, like, the beatles and the Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd and some of these people and bands that were so iconic and redefined genres. And that's the thing was God you're gonna. This is this is why we're gonna go on for like two hours. It's all because of sleep token, um. But no, what I love so much about them is how they just bend. They bring so many different styles of music, um, and it's hard to define what they are like. I have seen them listed probably 20 different ways. I I just love, like how they it'll start slow and you think it's like this nice little ballad and then all of a sudden you're hearing.
Speaker 2:You know jazz being brought into it and and then all of a sudden you're just. Your face is like just fucking melted by some kind of magical hardcore breakdown, and I know you had that moment recently with.
Speaker 3:There's video proof. There's video evidence that exists. I was genuinely. That was my honest to God reaction to the, and that wasn't me playing it just because I knew people were like looking, but that is exactly how my face, how my body reacted to that and it was just.
Speaker 2:Yeah, infinite baths. Yeah it's, you know, it's a great fucking name too, like that's.
Speaker 3:that's another thing too, like just to kind of piggyback now that I have to support you this one, but I'm fucking going to, is that you almost don't know what you're going to get from this band, because if you look them up, if you look, if you were to google them right, if you've never heard of them before, you Google them right now you're going to see them and you're like what in God's name am I going to listen to?
Speaker 3:It sounds like you're going to take like a bunch of kittens, throw them in a blender with like a bunch of washers, nuts and bolts and just hit, frat pay. That's what you think you're going to get this band, but you don't. And then, even though it's not, it's nowhere near like as heavy or like brain numbing, intense or whatever, but like even just um emergence. It starts off so like sweet and melodic and there's that beautiful piano in the back and then the singing and then how it just goes, and then there's kind of like that it almost feels like it's gonna take like an edm turn, which is that repeating arms around me. So okay, and you're kind of feeling, your you feel the they literally change the timing of the song. The song starts in quarters and then it goes to no. It starts in like. It starts in like halves and then it goes to like quarter something.
Speaker 3:So you feel the the beat change, the timing changes with that part and then exactly, and it just, it takes it, it just. I wouldn't even say it's like a it's, he's. I don't say he's rapping the lyrics, but there is a flow to it. There is a sort of swagger to the way he delivers the second half of the song and with like it's same thing. It's it, it wants to be. It has edm physical sounds to it, but the timing and the pace of like of like a new metal song.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean yeah, then it yeah, and then it's same thing and then it kind of has that. You get the melodic singing and it's so nuts, how, like I said, in just one song you put like four or five genres, three different timing changes and they look the way they do. It's nuts, it's just yeah, exactly like you said. They, without a doubt, will be a band that they will talk about. Now I know we're gonna get hate for me saying this one. I apologize if it, I'm not.
Speaker 3:You know people always get mad saying I'm comparing them. This one are saying they're better than them, so on and so forth. But yes, I definitely see people in 20, 30, 40, 50 years time reminiscing about them, how we reminisce about queen and bowie and the beatles and the bands that that took a genre and completely turned it inside out, flipped it on its head. I really think they have. I not just the genre, because you can put them in plenty of different ones. I think they have brought their own strain, mutation, whatever fancy word you want to use to just music in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I almost feel like they've created their own genre in a way. They've done so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's so much yeah, and and there's so much emotion, and I mean in, in, if you kind of like even want to get technical, just in, like how they fucking layer songs. I mean every song is just layered to perfection they're like onions layers, layers. I am absolutely fascinated right now with um the drummer who was vessel two or two um, but I do this thing with music.
Speaker 2:After I listened to it like over and over and over, I will pick, like my ear will pick up on one instrument and like I'll try to follow that one instrument through the whole song. Do you do that, or am I the weird one for doing?
Speaker 3:that no, no, no. So I'll million, a million percent do that. So you know there's people who are. Are you a music person or a lyric person?
Speaker 3:I get asked that all the time when people find out how much ever they care about music, and I was like it depends, some songs one will stick out to me more. But if I have to put it, if I have to, if you want me just completely generalize it, I'll say I'll listen to the music first, because then I will go back. I will like, obviously I'll listen to the whole song and most of the time I'll pick up on some of the lyrics here and there. But as I'm going back and if I'm reading the lyrics, I'm really listening specifically to them. It'll go.
Speaker 3:But, um, I will always, even if I'm paying attention to the lyrics, if there's one part that, uh, if there's, if there's a specific um note or riff or bridge, like I said, or just instrument in general, if it's tickling my ear hole just the right way, I won't. I will not, not let, no matter how hard I try. Um. A more recent song that I absolutely love, recently released, shout outs to ghost um peace field, the little riff in the beginning oh yeah it's.
Speaker 3:It's like the. It's like the main riff of the song, that very first part. When they do the chorus, you know they have that first verse slash intro due to the chorus, where it's just the guitar playing in the background and they have the singer having his line or whatever. It's just the two of them. That fucking riff plays in my head nonstop 24, 24, 7, 3, 6, 5, nights and weekends. Bitch, it does not. It does not stop because it's so well crafted. It's not necessarily like a I don't say it's not like difficult one, but it's just like it tickles the ear hole just right that my brain instantly just mellows yeah oh, it's and that's the.
Speaker 2:that's the great thing about sleep token, though, is like I would say I'm I'm first a music person. I will always like the music has to touch me, and then I'll go back and read the lyrics. But the lyrics that this man writes, I mean, I mean he, his lyrics are right up there with Hozier, and there's so much, there's so much emotion to it. Um, and there's so much, there's so much emotion to it. It's just oh, yeah.
Speaker 3:I remember the one from the other night that I was trying to think of. That's just stuck in my head all the time. I remembered it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what is it what?
Speaker 1:was it.
Speaker 3:You know the behavior. Canines of the Savior. Um, oh, something to the Legionion, something to the legion. Chaos to the chaos. Uh, trauma for my neighbors. Glory to the legion. Trauma for my neighbors. I don't know what it is it, just it flows, oh, it flows so well. I'm just like, oh, it's gorgeous I'm excited to see them.
Speaker 2:I know I've been telling everyone this, but I'm so excited to see them in concert. I cannot believe that I am going to be able to hear some of these songs live and just see the performance and just soak it all in and I'm kind of like, yeah, I mean I'll have my phone and I want to record it, but I also just kind of want to live in the moment. So it's, it's really kind of um do me a favor.
Speaker 3:Do me a favor, please, for the love of God. Do me a favor.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Don't record anything, don't, don't, don't. As soon as is doing it, as soon as they start playing, as soon as they take it. You can take all your pictures and your videos before and also the fun stuff. Oh, my god, we're here, can't believe. I'm here with this bestie, this gem, my rock. I do all you want the second, the light cut and you know that band is coming on. You take that phone and you turn it off. You put it. No, exactly that it experience it, be with it, like take, take all of it in.
Speaker 3:All my friends and family they get pissed at me when I go to concerts that like they wanted to go what? You didn't take any pictures. I was like no bitch because I was living. I'm sorry I want to sound like a fucking boomer here, but like I am so fucking there, I, I am engaging with it, I am experiencing all of it. If you really wanted to go that bad, you should have got a ticket. Like all love and respect. Like you can go YouTube a million other videos. You don't need my video, yeah true, I'm here for it.
Speaker 3:So I don't want you to record or take one goddamn picture. I need you to be present with every fucking second of that concert, please, and thank you yeah I'm so fucking serious.
Speaker 2:I know that there are a few songs that, if they do, I will probably like, if they do, the offering. It's my hands down, my all time favorite song. I think that was the song that I told you to listen to first.
Speaker 3:That was the very, very first song by them I ever heard.
Speaker 2:I love that song so much.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:I probably will lose it at that, at that um, if they open with even in arcadia, which I I think that they will, because they've teased um that intro and then they've released the sheet music to it yeah, so I. I can't imagine them not opening with that song. But if they do open with that I already told Beckett I just will break down and start crying. There's no way that I'm not going to cry at this. I can't say concert it's a ritual.
Speaker 3:A ritual? Yeah, no, I just yeah. No, you're preaching to the fucking choir. You're preaching to the goddamn choir on that one. That's what man, music is. Just you know. I think that's one thing. That's whatever we talk to you. I don't know if we had in our notes whatever, but like memories it's, I think some of my favorite, some of my favorite moments I've had at concerts. It's not even like the actual concerts at some, obviously it is, but but when I'm with people, that I mean if I am with like loved ones, you know, experience this.
Speaker 1:If.
Speaker 3:I'm with someone that I even remotely give a shit about. It could be the person I met standing in line. If I'm talking with them and they've told me and I can see their insane excitement for this band, I hope they play this song and so on and so forth, and I'm just like, all right, cool, and they start playing that song, I immediately look for that fucking person. I need to see that. When I'm with someone and I'm seeing it I love seeing people's favorite bands with them and hearing their favorite song or what they want, because I know what it does to me. I need to see it for somebody else. I really really do. It's like I enjoy seeing that just as much as actually seeing the band and experiencing the band and music and being there with all of it.
Speaker 3:It's just, it's one of the purest joys you can see. It literally is the most, yeah, the most concentrated joy you see is a child on christmas morning. Chocolate chip cookies like good chocolate chip cookies, you know what I mean. Like that first bite not, it's not like yeah, no, I mean, even the chips are.
Speaker 3:Why, if's always your favorite cookie, man, it was like a perfect truck. We're not talking about food, talk about music, and they're all tied, like I said, and and whatever it is. Whether it's it's a song, just seeing the band doesn't matter, but someone at a concert, their favorite band, their favorite, whatever it is, and them experiencing it because there's such an emotional and psychological release that happens, whether it's good, it's bad, it's different. It's whatever, it is, whatever they need um something such a bonding experience it is.
Speaker 3:It is because, uh, it's because, it's because it's another one of the I'll fight to any, I'll fight anyone to the end of the times that it's another one of the most primal and basic um, pre-wired program. Whatever you say, it's like we don't know anything, but we know how to like breathe and look and like all that shit is humans and we know. I had a middle. My middle school music teacher said this and this shit stuck with me forever. Shout out mr ben, for when you listen to this, um, it was like the first day of music class. He's talking about you, just how it's a lot of the same thing, you know, just how passionate he's about music for him, and so on and so forth. He was like oh, music's, you know how old it is, you know, they see, and so on and so forth. He was like oh, music's, you know how old it is, you know, they see, you know, you know there's things of like ancient Egypt and they had music then and they had an ancient this and they had an ancient that, and then that's what he said.
Speaker 3:He goes like when you, when you are first born, what is the first thing you do? He goes the exact second that you are in the world. What do you do? You cry. So what is crying? Crying is this one, it's vocal cords, it's straining, it's this and so on and so forth. He goes like I forgot which fancy pants scientists went and they broke it down. He goes like when you make that noise, when you're crying, your body is making music. He goes before you were anything in the world, you were music. He said that and I damn near my brain shat its pants and I was just like that's it. Music is the most important thing in the world, absolutely the most important thing in the entire world, and that shit has stuck with me to this day.
Speaker 2:And I will die believing that.
Speaker 1:Oh, you got me with that one oklahoma, oklahoma, where the sun comes sweeping down the plains and the weather winds.
Speaker 3:No, he, I like, I said he's. He's a middle school music teacher and he said before you were anything in this world, you were music. And I was like you know what? Do me a favor, go fuck yourself it. Just it broke me in the best way, yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:Cause I already really gave. I I already fucking loved music, and then he said that and it became my soul.
Speaker 2:God, I mean, and you know you and I, you know we're, we're both parents and you know you remember that first cry and holy shit, that's. That's an emotional string right there, like and it's the second.
Speaker 3:The doctors put my girls and they put my girls in my arms. I just my immediately that the first thing, the second I felt their warmth touch my arms. I I start singing. I started, I started humming a song, some whatever my body was feeling, I started humming some song. So yeah, so my very, very first child. When the doctor put lumen in my arms, I started humming um, somewhere over the rainbow. I keep forgetting the gentleman's name, but the, but the big hawaiian guy, his cover yeah I started humming that and singing that song and that's that's.
Speaker 3:You know, when she's when she's having difficulties, when she's having difficulties like trying to go to sleep, whatever it's like, when she was crying like crazy, trying to calm her down, nothing was working. I would just pick her up to kind of bounce her and I would just kind of hum the song boom, it would shut her right down yeah she would.
Speaker 3:She would calm down, she'd be cool if she's having a rough night. She's really scared, so, like we had a storm the other night, she's. I was laying with her and she said papa sing the rainbow song. So shirt and shit started singing that one for her. Um, as soon as the doctors put um a second daughter, my arms put juniper in my arms. I was singing, um. I always forget if he actually wrote the song or if he sang it, whatever. Um, I started singing elvis's welcome to my world instantly.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't, my body just reacts with music yeah just always, I'm not, I'm nowhere near a singer, but some type of a hum, some type of I can carry a note yeah children, just instantly, something just hits me so for, for maddie, it was always you Are my Sunshine. There you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I was pregnant with her I kept headphones on my belly and I would play all kinds of music, but I played a lot of classical music. Geez, I wonder if that makes classical music there you go, Geez.
Speaker 3:I wonder so much makes sense about her now so much makes sense?
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you a funny story about you. Know you're just talking about you. Know you come out, you come out and your first cry is music. And so she I don't know was maybe like a week old. My brother had come up to see her and meet her for the first time, and so we were all gathered around, you know, for dinner and you know she was in her like little bassinet, and she started. She started getting like a little fussy, I mean, you know, and so I went over and I put the CD that I played. It was, it was like baby classical music, um, baby classical music, and um, as soon as I turned that music on, she turned her head toward the music and immediately settled down. And my brother I'll never forget, like he just looked at that and he was like I'll be damn, he was like I, I that was just the coolest thing that we all got to witness like she recognized that music you know, and yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean, music just is so powerful and I I'd like, I'd like to think that the reason she's so into music, um of I mean she was literally developed through music. You know, um like the first time I ever felt her kick, I was at um a symphony and they were playing the? Um music from West side story, and it was like the rumble scene.
Speaker 3:I was gonna make the joke where it was.
Speaker 2:Just like I'm sitting there rumble too well, rumble, and they were playing that music and I felt her flutter for the first time, and so we've just always like even you know we say it was it's always been like me and her against the world Right. And uh but it's just that music, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just it's nuts.
Speaker 3:Like I said, it's just. I mean all right, yeah, cool, I mean we can go to the fuck, we can flip the script. All right, we're talking about this really nice music. You know we can go super sad with music now if we'd like no god no let's just, let's just throw it into the flag. Nah, but it's. But.
Speaker 2:But yeah, exactly so yeah, concerts are special and you know I I've missed so many opportunities to see like I have always wanted to see the foo fighters um in concert and I swear, every single time I've been in a position to like something happens um. You know the last time I had um VIP tickets to see them up in Pittsburgh and you know the great tragedy happened um with their drummer.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so of course didn't get to see them. But like, like the neighborhood really loved, the neighborhood Always wanted to see them. Of course they break up, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I'm like you have actually one of our beloved listeners and friends, teresa. She either she took she took someone before she took, like a nephew or something like that, before they broke up, or she's taking her son now that they're back together. Either way, she's going to see nine inch nails and I'm like jealous as fuck, oh wow, because, like because they're back together now, because he was like I'll go see them they break up, god damn it. That's like I'm going to see them.
Speaker 3:Fuck, that's awesome god, I can remember being little and seeing the closer video for the first time I feel like, I feel like for our generation, it was like okay, how did you, how did you first hear that song? Yeah, I feel like everyone has a closer song you first hear that song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like everyone has a closer song, but like that video I I know we're kind of getting off the topic here, but that video really was and still is like it is wild, but it's so fascinating.
Speaker 3:It's disturbing and fascinating and dark and I mean, you're just describing the band, you know that right yeah oh, they're, great anyhow yeah, no there's all those I, I, I. I'd like to think I've I've been very, very lucky to see some musicians that I have. Um, it's just by the grace of God that I got to see Linkin Park with Chester.
Speaker 1:It was the one time.
Speaker 3:I saw them. I got to see in the same night my Chemical Romance open for Linkin Park.
Speaker 2:I mean like okay.
Speaker 3:So actually on the card was All American Rejects Plain White Teas. Uh, afi, um, yeah, yeah, afi.
Speaker 1:And then went my chemical romance and then linkin park.
Speaker 3:It was like an all-day thing. Wow, it was yeah, and this was like right after. This was this was right after black parade came out. This, this was the tour they did before. They did like their black parade tour. Yeah, so this was like height.
Speaker 2:And I know that you recently got to see your favorite band in the whole wide world.
Speaker 3:I was trying to talk about that because I'm trying not to cry, but I did.
Speaker 2:Hey, I got all of my fields. It's your turn.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right, you got your feelings. Okay, you went on your rant on sleep token your emotions. So let me dump my purse about bullet for my valentine judge, if you will. I don't fucking care, I love this band. Shout outs to my amazing wife for getting me the greatest gift anyone could have ever given me. Uh, it was tickets to the. Uh, to that, to that concert. We went earlier this. We went middle of last month. We went and they have been my absolute favorite band for 20 years Technically, a little over 20 years because they released like an EP. Remember when bands would release EPs?
Speaker 3:They released like four or five songs like as like a mini album, as like a teaser, instead of just like drop them as like singles. You would just drop a teaser instead of just like drop them like singles it's. You would drop a whole bunch either way and then they would finish those songs, but whatever. They first dropped the hand of blood ep, which had the songs oh shit, hand of blood hit the floor, suffocating in a word to sorrow. I think tears was on that and the poison was on that. I think those were like their first five songs that they did, but whatever. And then they've released the album the Poison 2005.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the very, very first song I ever heard by that band was Her Voice Resides. It's the first actual song. You know, this was also when bands put like, okay, the first song is like the intro and it's just like a 45 seconds, like a minute and a half, like instrumental, which they did with apocalyptica which they did with apocalyptica, by the way, which is badass. Um, so then the song her versus her voice was the very, very first song I ever heard by that band and I was instantly fucking sold and I just had to hear it's that one. And I was, I was sold on them completely. I didn't care whatever they were selling, I was buying. I have seen them every single time they've played in the U? S. They're based out of Wales. For those of you who don't know a bunch of Welsh lads, um, they've played in the us. They're based out of wales.
Speaker 1:For those who don't know, a bunch of welsh lads um.
Speaker 3:I've seen them every single time they've come to the us for the past 20 years I have not missed a tour, I have not missed a show. Oh, wow, yeah, a massive like oh god, that that album is. So it's it's like a special tour it was, yeah, it was, it was the 20th it was the 20th anniversary of this album.
Speaker 3:So it was their very first album. It's 20 year anniversary of said album. It's like the 20th anniversary of the band, really, when they just have that a band and, um, they played it cover. So it's just, I can tell you I can probably write out every word, every note for each. I can play every song off of that album on every instrument that that band plays. I've learned every square inch of those songs, inch of those songs I can tell. I can take you song by song and I can tell you times that I've listened to that to make me happy, sad, indifferent, pump me up, mellow me out.
Speaker 3:I have an insanely deep connection with that band, but with that album specifically. And anyone who doesn't know that band, they're the band who gave us the song tears don't fall. Just just so much, just so much of my life is from that, just from that band. Not just that album. But but it was. It was the very first. One of their songs was the very first song I ever played like with, like a garage band, like. It's like the first gig we play like outwards, the very first song ever played in a band on a stage was a bullet for my valentine song.
Speaker 3:One of the very first modern songs I learned to play on guitar was a bullet for my valentine song. The very first song I ever learned to play on guitar was paranoid. We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 3:Um, two people who are massively uh to blame uh for music, for for my love and passion for music is first and foremost my father. Because of how he's been playing drums for 50 years, over 50 years now, in and out of bands, this and out of bands, that music is all because of my father. I would not enjoy music as much if not for him, but then so he just kind of like music is a thing. And then one of my incredibly close friends, jake, rest in peace, big homie. He was the one who, like he like, honed the edge of like the genre that I love and like my love for the. He's the one who introduced me to both my Valentine and all of that, and the very, very last song that him and I ever learned to play together, um, on stage, uh, was the song the last fight by both my Valentine off their album fever.
Speaker 3:Oh that is one of my. Even before um, even before he passed um, that song was already very, very near and dear and I I love that song. It resonates with me very, very much and it's just a badass song, um, but now I hear that I always think of him. I hear that song.
Speaker 3:If I'm home and I hear that song, I listen to it twice One to listen to it and then two I have to go grab my guitar and I have to play along with it. If I have a guitar by me, I have to physically play it. And I can't even begin to describe the emotional release.
Speaker 2:I have when they play that song live. I can't, I cannot, oh it's got to be intense.
Speaker 3:My younger brother's. The very first concert my younger brother went to my wife and I took him to. This was when I was back living in Connecticut. We took him to Boston. It's called the British Invasion Tour. They had Asking Alexandria opening for Bullet For my Valentine. They played that song about halfway through. It's about halfway through. They're playing that one and they did this badass thing. They don't do that much anymore. They did a little talking hey can you?
Speaker 3:guys help me play this next one. Yeah, alright, he took the distortion off the guitar so it just sounds like it's playing clean, sound like it sounds like an acoustic. And they'll play like an acoustic version the first, like verse and like chorus of the song, and then you'll just hear the hi-hat count in and then they'll pull and then they'll just fucking kick you and just play the song and oh wow it's just it.
Speaker 1:Uh god, it's it's an entire.
Speaker 3:It's just it got it's. It's an entire. It's almost like an out of body experience for me.
Speaker 1:It really is.
Speaker 3:That song means so much, that band means so much, that moment all means so much. And when that song was over, they played the last note and then they cut it and, like the lights go, my legs literally gave out from underneath, literally gave out from underneath, and I just, I was like I was man, meet me. And I got my armor, my younger brother, we're jumping, we're singing every word of the song, we're just like having time of our fucking lives, on and so forth. The song cuts and when I tell you, like a light switch, my legs gave out from underneath me and I start bawling like a fucking two-year-old oh god, oklahoma, oklahoma, oklahoma.
Speaker 3:It gets me every, every single time, every single time, but I just I can't. That song is, it's yeah, that song, that band, just all of it just means so. So goddamn much to me. And so the fact that-.
Speaker 2:How many times did you cry at the concert?
Speaker 3:Oh, God, I think just twice, like actual cry, cry once, but I teared up twice. So I teared up as they're doing like their little as like the intro is playing. Because the very first time I saw this band um it.
Speaker 3:Like I said it was band, like I said it was almost 20, like I said it was over 20, it was about 20 years ago when I saw this band and I could just remember just being that, and the person I saw this band with the most was my friend Jake Same thing because it was his favorite band too. So it just it was. It meant so much to me Like seeing this band.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And this album with with my wife, because music, I feel music. She may not be as vocal about it as I am, but music has just as much of a role in her life as it does mine. Like, like that was our thing, we went. I do so many concerts. We were the, we were the concert. Like that was our thing, we went. I do so many concerts we were that, we were the concert buddies every single one we went to, we went to every warped tour together.
Speaker 3:We, we, man, we would lie to you. We still found a way to go to concerts. When we were working three jobs trying to save for and pay for our insanely expensive wedding, we still found time, for you know, to go to shows, to go to concerts, so on and so forth.
Speaker 3:That mean that that was us, it was the best thing for us and that was the first we've been to fuck, I think, since we've had kids. Just us, just the two of us. It's been a long time since the two of us go to a show so it meant so much to be there with her to experience that it was just yeah, it was very overwhelming. So it's there, I'm just like you know, it's the band's getting ready to come, she's, it's a whole, it's.
Speaker 3:It was a lot um yeah so I teared up then and, um no, it's great, I will fun fact you saw that concert on my birthday I did saw that concert on your birthday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was something. Fuck me, man. The song I cried to was the very first song I learned to play by them. The very first song I played on stage was my friend Jake's favorite song by them, gun to the head, favorite song in the whole entire world with the lovely title suffococating Under Words of Sorrow. Oh God, I love that song, though, and it's insanely easy to play. It's just the same thing. The riff just goes the time, the pacing, the song. It shows up, it fucks you every which way to Saturday, and then it's out the door in like three minutes. It just shows up, fucks and leaves. I love it so much. Yep, there's no yep, it is all about it Fucking love that one man. See, I cried. I cried with that song, cried with that one, with my whole chest.
Speaker 1:Not like sobbing and weeping on the floor, but tears came out of both eyes Right, right, yeah, yeah, I think chest not not like sobbing and weeping on the floor, but tears came out of both eyes, right, yeah, yeah, I think that's good.
Speaker 2:I think you know that's. That's the power of music it has the ability to bring out so many different emotions, um, and whatever, whatever you're feeling in the moment, like there's a song to match that oh you know, and it's just, I had music. It's just, it's.
Speaker 3:It's such a sacred thing as one artist, I if I'm going to tell you this quote and if you don't know it, you might be shocked with who said it, because I know when I first heard what um music is, the it's like music is the strongest form of magic, or music is the most powerful form of magic, something like that I would say stevie nicks said that nope, gonna be something like mr rogers or some shit no, no, it's a musician.
Speaker 3:It's a musician late 90s, early 2000s. I wants early 2000s. I want to say Late 90s early 2000s. I want to say they started late 90s.
Speaker 2:Man, I don't know.
Speaker 3:That was Manson.
Speaker 2:Really. Marilyn Manson said that yeah, you know, I could see him saying that, though Honestly, I can't too.
Speaker 3:I can't too. He gets a bad rep for like his music and his personality, but um he's wildly um intelligent and yeah, in tune with.
Speaker 3:He doesn't get enough credit just like because of his persona, because of his music, because of it. But honestly, some of his lyrics and whatever his music is very, very well crafted and well written. He is. He's a very, very intelligent um artist, for sure. Uh, that I just like said so, he'll, he just yeah. So when he said that, I was like really I wasn't shocked, but I was surprised. I would definitely say I was surprised when I heard that Either way. So I'm going to ask you a fun one now. Okay, what song or songs would you say are your soul mirrors? Which ones, which one or ones resonates with you? Or is this an Oklahoma topic?
Speaker 2:No, no, I have a few that.
Speaker 3:Good, because so do I. So I don't feel bad having more than just okay, yeah, yeah, you want to. You want to go you want to go shot for shot.
Speaker 2:You want to yours, I'll do mine uh, I'll throw out a few, and then you can throw out a few okay so I one that um, oh man, this is going to be an Oklahoma moment, but it's um better together by Jack Johnson. So that is mine and Maddie's song there you go.
Speaker 2:And so it just uh, she even bought me, um, like when she moved out and went to college, she got me this big poster of the lyrics and I have it, oklahoma, where the sun comes she's just crazy, but I have it up over my work desk and anytime I just feel like I need to, or I'm thinking about her, I can just look up and see that, but she so like Jack Johnson, just in general. So she, she was, I don't know, maybe three when the Curious George movie came out, and so she would always get in the car and she would always say, like um, george monkey, music mom and so it was yeah, george monkey music and so it was better together upside down.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I think another one is in the mystic by van morrison. Um, I can put that on and I just immediately feel like it does something for my soul like it just, I don't know. It's just. That's such a beautiful song. You, I would hope you would know that song right.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, Um, I really like, um Billy Joel, Um so just in general, just Billy Joel. I like a lot of hit, a lot of his music, but like um, this song moving out and Allentown, there's something about those songs that I can put on and it makes me happy. And then I will quit for this round with Slow Dancing in a Burning Room by John Mayer. Do you know that song?
Speaker 3:I do, I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that song I mean, yeah, man, it's the guitar part that I just that little riff that he does in the beginning One of the greatest guitarists to ever pick up the instrument.
Speaker 3:I'll say it.
Speaker 1:Unbelievable what that man can do.
Speaker 3:Honestly, he does. Just stop singing, just play your instrument. Oh my God, yeah, insanely talented guitarist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he really is. And have you, have you ever seen like he's a? He's a genius lyricist. I saw an interview once with him and the guy challenged him in like I want to say like 20 seconds. He had like a verse mapped out in his head just from his conversation with this guy. It he really is just kind of a musical genius, I think I know a lot of people don't like John Mayer, but I love him oh yeah, for sure so I'll shut up now and let you go. Oh no you're fine.
Speaker 3:You're fine because I'm not sure which of my personalities wants to go first. I'm so happy when you said you had different ones. I feel like we kind of had the same thing and it was really hard to even narrow down to fucking four songs, but just songs I feel really resonate with different, I guess, parts that make me me if that doesn't sound too hippie and open to it, so we'll just out the gate, just have fun with this one. Um. Battle of the heroes, john williams oh yeah people will say duel of the fates.
Speaker 3:People will say, um, I keep reading the actual name of it, I just call it the harry potter theme. People will say all sorts of others. I will say that his miss crown jewel is probably star wars wars, but his masterpiece is battle of the heroes. Because just, I mean, just from from a movie standpoint, just the emotion that was going into that scene alone oh, for sure built up to that scene.
Speaker 3:Yeah, alone was intense and everyone says music makes and breaks scenes. Well, you want to talk about a perfectly, a perfect scene and the perfect score to it. Quick little squirrel note on this one and I'll bring myself back in. It was. It was something. It was celebrating, like his. What like his 90th birthday is like, because he's super old it's like his 90th, like his 95th birthday or something like that one.
Speaker 3:Uh, I saw this little like documentary or clip of an interview he did or something like that one. It was like, oh, something about his writing process. No, it was before the last star wars movie. It was, it was right before the last star wars movie. It fell in line with that anniversary or something like that one. And, uh, someone was asking him about how he does it and does the, the music and so on and so forth, and this blew my fucking mind. One, this man hand writes all of the music with a pencil and sheet paper, blank sheet paper. He writes, he writes oh, wow, one, two. This is a superpower I wish I had. The music is the last thing done. For any movie that he's a part of, specifically Star Wars, every Star Wars, the music is the last thing done. The movie is filmed, it's edited, it's heard, he sits, he watches the movie with no music and what he feels is right for that scene he does.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh, wow the fuck out of here, sir john williams what what this man watches a essentially a silent movie or a silent scene in a movie, and then what he feels is what he puts, that I I'm getting goosebumps right now just saying that like yeah oh my god.
Speaker 3:But yeah, battle of the heroes, bringing it back it, because I know a lot of it's, if anyone has picked it up, on the episodes I've been on here I've got some problems in the attic, you know, and so it's. I kind of hum that song to myself if I'm having like a rough day, kind of like struggling with I don't know, I guess, anxieties, if you will Like there's that.
Speaker 3:I don't want to say the good and the evil, but I call it the rational and irrational parts of my brain. It's that struggle that's going back and forth, the light and the dark, the good and the evil. You know, whatever it is that song just it just honed it out, though it doesn't necessarily end it the best way. As long as I always have the high ground, I always make sure not to underestimate my powers, though how many more times, but it just it's exactly what it is. I feel that that song really incorporates, encompasses that, because there is the beautiful orchestra, but then the just the deeper. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's light and dark and it's fantastic and it's beautiful. Yeah, so that one just kind of helps out with that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean man, john Williams, I mean, he's a master. He's a master. You know, I often think that the composers that are doing film scores, you know the classical greats. They were writing music for operas, in plays.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, movies are just operas in plays.
Speaker 3:There are modern day operas in plays. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so John Williams certainly will be one of the greats greats, I mean, he already is one of the greats he is, he is the great and and I would say that I um, thank you for saying that because I've always kind of felt that I was like this man needs to be put on the same level as beethoven, bach and the rest of them that I don't know, but truly, because it is an orchestra, he is a composer, he is leading, he is the same thing. It's just oh, because it's for a movie and it's not Now get bent. He has just as much fucking talent as the rest of them and he can fucking hear. So suck it.
Speaker 3:Beethoven, yeah, he has all of his senses that we know, that we know of like I said the man is in his 90s it's true.
Speaker 3:True, I'm just kidding, don't don't, don't hate me, don't don't be mad at me. I love you anyway. Um, this next one. I'm not going to go too deep because you know there's a story behind it. There is an insanely talented musician by uh the uh. He goes by the name of miracle of sound and it's he, just he. He has his own music that he just kind of does, that he just thinks of, but a lot that he does is that he he's a big nerd, like I am. He loves video games and movies and so on and what have you, and he writes his own original songs that he feel would fit in that one. Well, he wrote a song for the like norse reboot of god of war. I called it ode to fury. I listened to that song one time and it will stick with me for the rest of my life, and that's all I'm going to say about that yeah, yeah um, but it is an incredibly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I stopped myself before I have an oklahoma but yeah, I was gonna say, I'm gonna oklahoma you before you even get started.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I'm good, I'm good, the song's not playing. I'm good, all right, but um yeah yeah, any, if anyone listens to that song you've, if you go through it, if you're going through it, if you've gone through it. Yeah, I, I recommend it.
Speaker 3:But no, you're not actually funny enough that one more on here is actually you'll get to. I don't know if I want you to listen to the song before you get to this part in the game or if if I want you to, like me, not know the song's existence until you get to this part in the fucking game.
Speaker 3:But it was originally written, written, written. Jesus, it was written. It was an original piece for my favorite game in the whole wide world, red dead, redemption 2, and the song is called unshaken and the song is that's just. Yeah, like you, I leave it completely up to you, but I also don't want to like, oversell it, like, oh, I want to do this and be surprised. Like him, no, do what you want. Well, listen to the song. Listen to the song.
Speaker 3:But yeah, the song is about, you know, determination, perseverance.
Speaker 3:You know everything sucks around you, just placing your feet, throwing your shoulder down, standing strong and soldiering, the fuck on the main. You know, it's in the uh, yes, it's, it's the chorus and some of the first um words in it um, may I stand unshaken, um, against the crashing world, against the crash of worlds. You know the old, the new, who I was, who I am, who I want to be, um kind of thing. It's just, you know. You know, at least, what it feels to me of a thing is that like to remain who I am, whether it's deep down, or if I have to change to become someone new me, you know, don't let it falter me and stay true, to like who I am and who we are or who I want to be no matter how much everything else changes around me, I will not change which it feels like a new kind of outlook on life I like to have because I feel like I had, I feel I did a lot of that throughout my life yeah and then finally, just you know, standing up.
Speaker 3:Is that enough is enough? Kind of like this, is it? If you like it, hey, I'm heading this way if you don't fuck off, kind of a thing. So it was really right right yeah, so that one's really like I said there's. It's one of my favorite parts of the game because you the song just plays and you can just like hold the travel button and it's like it's its own music video, it's. It's awesome, so you get to listen to the song. It's, it's. Oh, I love it so much.
Speaker 3:It's about halfway through the game, either way okay yeah, and then one more, and I'll shut the fuck up at this part. Um, is this desire by pj harvey? I think it's the artist. I don't know if you're familiar with that artist or song or whatever it is it is in the show kiki blinders, which I absolutely love and adore. Um, that's for a specific part of my brain, a specific part of yeah I feel, um, you know what?
Speaker 3:I don't think I give a whole lot of details about that one. Go ahead and listen to that song and make your own judgments of why I chose that one. How about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I will definitely listen to it and give you my notes on that.
Speaker 3:It's a specific feel good. I love it yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you have some more?
Speaker 3:Oh no, that was the four songs of my soul mirrors.
Speaker 2:Hmm soul mirrors. Well, I did want to mention, speaking of like soul mirror songs, that I've recently had a new one that I can add to the list, and I don't know why I didn't add to my list.
Speaker 3:Can I guess can.
Speaker 2:I guess can, I guess go ahead and guess what am I going to talk about? I?
Speaker 3:I don't know if I I always feel like I don't pronounce it right, so I'm just going to say it's from the band Ghost.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yeah, lacrima.
Speaker 3:Lacrima, it is Lacrima.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And yeah, that song. When I first heard it, I will say that was. It was a very, very like special moment. I will always remember the day that I heard that song, and you know why um how much details are we allowed to give?
Speaker 3:I want to be, I want to be respectful you know, oh yeah, no, no, not that type of details, but we can at least tell the people when you heard the song that's public knowledge.
Speaker 2:Well, I heard it when it, when it dropped on its release. You were part of the first people.
Speaker 3:It's release moment. You listened, you were amongst the first to listen to it yes yes, and it was on your birthday too. It was on my birthday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll shout that out.
Speaker 3:See, we had massive musical moments on each other's birthdays this year High five to us.
Speaker 2:High five. I'm like high fiving you right now.
Speaker 3:Just go on about the song. It's okay, just go on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah on about the song. It's okay, just go on. Yeah, um, yeah. So. So this song, I like I said I loved it from the from the very beginning, but the more I like listened to it and I kind of went through like a little bit of a rough I say a little bit of a rough batch um yeah yeah, it was.
Speaker 3:It was like it was just a lot where the sun um, but I I'd listen, I'd listen to the song.
Speaker 2:I went for a drive and was listening to the song and I was like started picking up on some of the lyrics and I was like I think, and I think this song is about trauma and um, so I you know, when I came I was actually staying with my daughter, I was down in Morgantown and I came back and I got the lyrics out and I read them and I just like just completely fell to pieces because I thought this is, this is my theme song. Now, you know, and and now when I'm kind of in a dark place, I can listen to that song and it gives me, it just gives me so much power. I guess I want to say and that song has been such a gift to me felt compelled to like want to want to write or tell you know an artist, what that's, what a song means to me. But holy cow, like this song, it, it.
Speaker 2:I feel like and I know this is sounds so cheesy and cliche, but in a lot of ways this song song saved my life. It just helped me, helped me put a, put a spin on some things that that I needed, I needed to think about in a different light and it just really helped me kind of get over that hump that I needed to get over. And I cannot listen to that song ever in the same way Like I like there was a. There was a way that I listened to it before the epiphany and then after epiphany. But yeah, that that song, shoo and it, it just means so much to me. God, I mean honestly, what a time to be alive when we've got songs like Lacrima from a band like Ghost, and then we have Alkaline and just a litany of songs like from a band like Sleep Token. I mean, what a time to be alive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nah, it just yeah. Now my little two cents on that song. But I can't tell you how like emotional and happy I was and like insanely teared up fighting tears, when you told me how you felt about that song and like what it did. And that now you had something. You now have your. You know that you now have your. Your two clips, your there's Good in this World by Samwise Gamgee, your. I.
Speaker 1:Wish this.
Speaker 3:Never Happened to Me with Frodo and Gandalf Like I literally fought back tears.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I was so happy, I was so elated.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about, let's kind of do like a quick back and forth on soundtrack moments, yes, but like what's a what's what's a song that defines a heartbreak for you tuesday's gone, leonard skinner oh, that's a good song.
Speaker 1:Mine is my Immortal by Evanescence.
Speaker 3:Christ.
Speaker 2:Fucking Amy Lee. God, what a voice. So go from heartbreak to triumph.
Speaker 3:What's a song that defines triumph to you? Crap. I have a fun one. Go for it, because I I didn't have one for that one because that's really hard for me to narrow down oh, I chose. Don't stop believing by journey oh, fucking, kill me now, I fucking love that song. If I was stuck on an elevator with Hitler, that song and the person who invented coleslaw and had a gun with two bullets in it, I'd shoot Don't Stop Believing twice. I swear to God. I'd shoot that song fucking twice. I fucking hate that song.
Speaker 2:Wait, I want to know what you have against coleslaw I honestly don't.
Speaker 3:I don't. It's just social media has been against coleslaw. I'm 50-50 on coleslaw. It belongs in it. Better be on my goddamn pulled pork, on my pulled pork sandwich. But we'll do a food episode one time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But yeah, no, it's just. You know everyone's like fuck you, fuck me, fuck Ernesto de la Cruz and fuck coleslaw. You know what I mean. Like you'd see on the internet. But yeah, I'm shooting, don't stop.
Speaker 1:Twice, twice oh, I think it's just such a.
Speaker 3:It's a fun song for me I think it's a fun song for everybody else around me now, because I fucking hate it so much so I had in here like a quiet, quiet, sacred moments and and I think I feel like we kind of touched on it a little bit with, like the soul um albums but a little bit.
Speaker 3:But when quiet sacred moments I had like same thing, it was difficult. We, we kind of touched on it Like it's a quiet sacred moment, so I saw it as two. I kind of went two directions with that one. So when I was thinking, quiet sacred moments is that like very intimate father daughter time, or you know, parent and child time, so that was somewhere over the rainbow and welcome to my world, for sure.
Speaker 3:But then I was thinking just like, like something I would see as like quiet and sacred. It's like just that, by yourself, there's no lights. Like, okay, the most precious and pure, sacred moment. If you will Picture this, close your eyes, if you have to, and picture this for a second. It's like it's the middle of winter If you live somewhere that has winter and snow, sorry for everyone. Close to the equator.
Speaker 2:Columbia don't listen to this, just kidding.
Speaker 3:Either way. But it's like two or three o'clock in the morning, middle of winter. You have to, for whatever reason. You get up in the middle of the night. You heard a noise in the bathroom. You're just up because you're past Either way and you just like you get up to see. You knew it was going to snow. So you kind of pull the shades back and you look outside. And there's that faint reddish maroon hue to the sky because of all the lights.
Speaker 3:If you live in like a city area. There's that maroonish, reddish kind of hue to everything and you see that it's snowing, not like a blizzard, there's no like hard winds, not an insane storm, but there's that nice, constant snow that you know there was not going to be school the next morning. So you go to your window and you either open the window, I would go right to my, I would open my whole ass door, I don't fucking care, and I would walk outside and the sound that you have. Then you, literally you hear the crystals of snow hitting the ground falling so gracefully on one another.
Speaker 3:You hear the faint wind out in the distance like that, that such that subtle, not gust, just that whisper of wind and then just like the scraping of the ice crystals across one another. It's just tell me something that is more quiet and peaceful and perfect than that. So I was trying to think of a song that makes me either think of that, feel like that or for me, for whatever reason, is last time that I was able to experience that, like I had those moments holding my chills. What song, instantly, did my body just start doing? And I feel like I'm painting this picture of this perfect, amazing song. But it's kind of a downer, but it's anyone who's not part of like I.
Speaker 3:I don't know the specific culture, if you will, would probably see it as a downer, but whatever it is, I believe you pronounce the band's name as Wardruna or Wardruna, whatever the fuck it is. They're Norwegian, I want to say. I want to say they're scandinavian. Um, and it's their song. Uh, same thing I, I. I apologize if I butcher the pronunciation of it. It's like hell given hell, gavin. It's like death's journey or something like that one, and it's oh wow.
Speaker 3:It's essentially a song of a soul transferring into the afterlife. The lyrics I want to say they like translate into um who will hold me in the dark? Who will hold me when it's all gone, when it's so cold, so cold. I want to say that's like roughly translated to. It's like the first lines of the song.
Speaker 1:Oh wow.
Speaker 3:But but it is like I said, it sounds like it'd be a very doom and gloom kind of song and you kind of get the vibes of it. It ends up being like the acceptance, if you will, of like the acceptance of death. It's a part of life, like the end, the end song kind of builds up and then the music stops and then he a chant, he speaks words and I want to say it's the same thing. It like translates to life is pure but not eternal. All things die, warriors die, cattle die, the gods die, but reborn anew, or something like that.
Speaker 3:So so it is so kind of we talked about back on, like our myths, one in norse mythology in scandinavian. There's a lot of that birth and rebirth and that, yes, death is unfortunate, but there also is that creation's totally fine, there's acceptance to it. So that is that quiet, sacred song, sacred moment that I think I have, I feel I think about um, because it's one, it is a quiet and morbid thing think about. Is that? Because it, because I feel the two of them go hand in hand that moment that I think of that peace and quiet and the serenity of the cold night in the middle of the winter they literally call it the cold march in the song and so on and so forth. So it just they kind of resonate with one another, go hand in hand, I don't know, maybe I'm just more than fucked up.
Speaker 2:But if you haven't, I mean we're all fucked up, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but come on, it's you and me we're talking about here, it's me we're talking about here. If you haven't heard that song, I cannot recommend it enough. Just that band in general, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, I think yeah definitely some.
Speaker 2:I think, when I think of like these quiet, quiet moments I tend to lean into more of like very specific film scores, that that I just lean into and love so much. One of my all time favorites is from that Batman begins. It's and I'm probably going to butcher, the name of this is a testicus and I, I can't, and there's been so many times I've just put my headphones on and just cranked that song up and that song is just so emotional for me.
Speaker 1:I just love it so much.
Speaker 2:One of my other favorite composers is Raymond Jawady, so he did all the music for Game of Thrones.
Speaker 3:Beautiful.
Speaker 2:But Light of the Seven. That's one of my favorites in Protector of the Realm. So that's from House of Dragon I.
Speaker 1:Lean Into Across the Stars by John Williams. Oh.
Speaker 3:God, no, why did you yeah across the stars, god?
Speaker 2:well, I'm going to, and then my all-time favorite, and this is going to be an oklahoma moment um is time from hon zimmer, which is from the movie inception.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yes, yes that song.
Speaker 2:oh, I could probably listen to that song a million times and never get sick of it. Um, um, it's, it's just so good, and you know, I typically don't talk about personal stuff, but so my daughter is very talented musician, um, so she plays violin and viola, and um last summer in Augustust she had an opportunity.
Speaker 2:Well, she earned an opportunity. So she was one of eight violas. Yeah, she did right. I want to give her all the respect she deserves. But, um, so she was one of eight violas picked worldwide to go to LA and do a studio intensive at Warner Brothers, and so they're putting together an album of, like different film scores and I think the album is called Hollywood and it's from the LA. Oh, I'm going to butcher what it's called if you want to look for the album, but I want to say, like the LA FCIO or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:But one of the songs that they ended up recording and made it on the album is time, and so they had a thing where you could buy the, the record, um, before it hit um streaming services, and so of course you know I bought the album and I can remember, because this song means so much to me, um, I can remember getting that album and you know, of course, opening it up and and there's her little name, write it right on the album and, uh, you know hearing that song uh, oh.
Speaker 2:Oklahoma where the sun comes, sleeping on that place, knowing that she's part of that ensemble playing that song she is.
Speaker 3:She is now sorry to cut you off, but she is now officially a part of that song's history.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like she recorded it Like, not just like with some friends that threw it onto YouTube. I mean she did that. Technically she's a part of it, but like it's there, it's recorded. There's an album that was sold to Warner Brothers. It's there, it was licensed, it was everything Like legally she is a part of that song's history just as much as she is a part of that song's history, just as much as she is a part of your history. Yeah, oh my God. Oh, Oklahoma with that song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to say twist the knife a little bit more. But, I just I mean I probably cried for two hours Because you know, as a parent, you have those moments where you think this moment, my heart could not be any more full, you know. And then you have like another moment and another moment and you think there's no way that my heart could keep getting full.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry wrong movie, but yeah that. That was one of those moments where I just felt so much pride in her and her talent and her accomplishments and, like she, she had to audition. She accomplished this.
Speaker 3:This was, this was huge I remember you telling me about this. However, I either don't recall which, which is a very high possibility, or I don't know. If you told me I didn't know that she was out of the world, I knew she had to audition. I don't know If I was a betting man 10 minutes ago, I would have said that it was out of. You know, either just the applicants or out of like, just like the states. I didn't know. She was one of eight from the fucking world yeah, I mean they had I mean it was from the applicants.
Speaker 2:It was from the applicants, but they had applicants, but they accepted them from all over the, but they accepted them from all over the world so yeah
Speaker 3:I don't want to rain on anyone's parade. Please by all means correct me if I'm wrong in a very constructive way. How many violists are there in the US? You know what I mean? I have a feeling that that type of music and those type of instruments are I don't know. I feel like I don't know. It doesn't feel like a very united statesy kind of thing, so like other countries that have different roots and ties to that style of music, typing just that instrument in general. Um, you know, like you know, it's like, oh, it's just like, out of all the applicants, yeah, but, like I said, how many people are okay? Yeah, okay, she's, so she's one of. You know. Oh, they needed eight of them. Well, there's seven of them in the US. So what, they've literally trained the last one. You know what I mean, but like, out of the whole world.
Speaker 3:that's insane, that's fucking.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's unbelievable, holy.
Speaker 2:She's so talented.
Speaker 3:And she has great taste in leather goods and belts. Just got wow, man.
Speaker 2:You know she does fucking great, even from other orders. One of these days, I will say one of these days, I, I would love to have you and her have a conversation, because even though she plays classical music, um, she's quite the metal head. Music, um, she's quite the metal head, and you have no idea how. Here for it, I fucking am. And she could. She could wax on for days about how classical music and metal music are so closely tied together um and you know, like she's a music, she could go into music theory and all of this stuff.
Speaker 2:But she could go into music theory and all of this stuff, but yeah, you two would just be like I'm here for it.
Speaker 3:You have no idea how? Here for it I am.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it always cracks me up because she's so like she knows all these great composers, but she is like this, like metalhead.
Speaker 3:She just I see I'm literally envisioning it right now. She's just like driving on the street Right, just like listening and I don't know. Like I said, I only know like two, I only like two classical composers. So she's got like Bach playing or something like literally just like on her fucking you know, you know, like on her spotify play this, or the hell if she listens to it, or things like now it's just like bach. And then right after that it's like everybody's fucking in the ufo by fucking rob zombie comes on next year.
Speaker 1:I mean it just like goes back and forth like I thought mine was fucked up.
Speaker 3:Going from like 90s and 2000s like hip-hop to like disney songs, to, like you know, cradle of filth, but like I think going from like beethoven to rob zombie would be an actual mind fuck one thing I did want to talk about and I know you're kind of a sci-fi nerd I don't.
Speaker 2:Did you ever watch battle star galactica watched?
Speaker 3:Battlestar Galactica. Bears Beats Battlestar Galactica. Yes, I have seen that, so.
Speaker 2:Bear McCreary, who has done a lot of scores for gaming.
Speaker 3:Yes, he has, absolutely has.
Speaker 2:But he did all of the music for Battlestar Galactica and this was, I remember, reading, that this show was groundbreaking in the fact that he was able to turn music into one of the characters and they, they just kind of ran with that Um, and so there was, like this classic theme of um, the shape of things to come with Passacaglia, um, but those became like exactly the Shape of Things to Come with.
Speaker 2:Passacaglia, bless you. But those became like exactly. But you know, it's just so cool that you know you have this show that literally made music into a character.
Speaker 3:So I just wanted to do a little shout out to that Made it a person, if you will.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what do you listen to when you're going out? You're needing to get pumped up. You're going out with your bros. What do you listen to? To get all pumped up for it for a night out.
Speaker 3:I have one. I'll see if I can find it in the video and I'll send it to you. I would love to use it as like one of the promos for it, but there's oh yes, it's a night out, which we okay. So it's like a night out or like we're partying. It's a night out, doesn't matter. The answer is pretty much the same yeah it is let's go trick daddy, featuring little john, these side boys, and they have that lovely little score.
Speaker 3:They have that lovely little. Uh god, whatever, they use crazy train to it there's a video that exists.
Speaker 1:It's like it's me.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, it is. It's like me and my younger. It's me and my younger brother driving he's. We're making I think we're making a packy, for those of you uncultured swines will fucking know what that means. It's going to the alcohol store to go get alcohol. We're making a beer run or something like that one. I forgot what it was, but it was after I had moved. I want to say it was after I had moved. It was one of the first times I was back home and being with him. We're already're so we're already just like on cloud nine, because you know we're just, you know we're back together, we're hanging out, we have a good time and this song is jamming and it's just too.
Speaker 3:I don't know what people may think I look like if they don't know what I look like from social medias and so so forth. They're from the promos and also the kind of fun shit. Me and my brother. If you look at us, we are stereotyped white boys, damn white boys, gringos, if you shall. And to the two of us I mean just like bumping and blasting Trick, Daddy slash, lil Jon and East Side Boys, just like let's go, let go let's go, man, we are jamming the fuck out.
Speaker 3:Um, it's funny as hell. I love, I love that video, but that song turns. I just I'm turned all the way. The fuck up doesn't matter. What do you mean? To be turned up for? You need me to go from zero to 100 homie, real quick, real, real quick, real quick. Yeah, put that song on. You need me to go from zero to 100 homie, real quick, real, real quick, real quick. Yeah, put that song on. You need me to go fight somebody. Put that song on. You need we're gonna party and drink all night. Put that song on.
Speaker 3:You need me to have energy, put that fucking song on that. Or if we're just gonna party all night long, I'm gonna put on party all night long by wiz Khalifa. I love that. That song is very. That song is kind of I go back to. I go back to specific I don't know if I can say actually which year it was, but it's a very humbling and nostalgic.
Speaker 3:Whatever that song, just it's just, man, we're just gonna have a good time man, we just have a good time man, we just we're with the boys, we're with the girls, we're with the goons, we're just gonna have a good time. We're not gonna like we're not gonna go out and like you know, we're not gonna like cause riots and like party too hard where we're like breaking everything and like destroying shit, but we're just gonna have a good time and laugh and just fucking get hammered. You, you know, we're just going to have a great time. That's what that song is to me and so I'm not getting like out of control, like pumped up, like little John Eastside boys would do to me, but like I'm ready to party, I'm ready to have a real good time with that one. That is essential. About to go out and have a good time, song or not.
Speaker 2:No, about to go out and have a good time, song or not. I wanted to have the uncomfortable silence there for a moment.
Speaker 3:No, you're good.
Speaker 2:I mean God, I can see it, but I can't see it too.
Speaker 3:You can see the song or you just can't see me picking hip hop songs. Is that what it is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the hip-hop songs. I. I know you had a moment, uh not too long ago, where you were doing some rapping um, which I found hilarious, but okay so yeah, secret time.
Speaker 3:That was not a part of this one and I don't care if I'm pulling the audible and doing it. I don't know what it is when I am completely by myself and I gotta do hardcore cleaning of my lovely abode. I will put on the songs that I listen to at my middle school dances. So it's like 2000, it's like 90s and 2000s hip hop, rap, r&b. I'm listening to shit like I'm listening to ti young jeezy outcast little john east side boys, pd fucking pablo that's right. Middle school dancing pd pablo fuck was wrong with us back then, oh my god. But like that's the songs I'm dmx. Um, oh yeah, I'm listening to that shit all night.
Speaker 2:That was oh, fucking dmx. Rip love dmx rip.
Speaker 3:That was the very, very first album with swear words that I ever owned so what is this? Song huh what are your pump up songs?
Speaker 2:oh, my pump up songs.
Speaker 3:I really like the weekend ooh, the lights, the lights, lights. Is that what it is? Whatever that song, I fuck with that song yeah, I really like his early stuff, though I couldn't tell you, I think that's like the only song that one and I can't feel my legs, legs is that it.
Speaker 2:I can't feel my face, that's right is that it Can't feel my face.
Speaker 3:Face, that's right. We made the version about working out at the gym and that's about like I can't feel my legs when I'm in you to the squat rack.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably, you know. Yeah, the weekend always is a go-to. I don't know. I have a tendency to go more in the pop realm if I want to really get pumped up about something. Oh fuck with it. Love Dua Lipa. Anything that's just high energy.
Speaker 3:Lil Jon and the East Side Boys.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I have my Beast bc boys, oh my god let's go, the motherfucking bc boys. Yeah hell yeah, which fantastic, fantastic documentary on them.
Speaker 3:On um apple gorgeous, if you ever get a chance to watch that. Dude, I fucking love. Sabotage Fuck yeah, Okay, cool Okay. What were you going to ask?
Speaker 2:No, I was going to ask what is a song that is completely, just fucking overrated, but you can't help but love it.
Speaker 3:Thriller. I fucking said what I said. I don't care, this is the hill that's a good song it's overrated as holy fuck.
Speaker 2:Overrated as ungodly fuck yeah, but it gets you, it gets you, it gets you moving no, it doesn't you it. You don't want to do the little shimmy.
Speaker 3:I don't, I don't, but I cannot help but sing along with it and recite the Vincent Price Darkness falls upon the land. The midnight hour is close. I'm not going to do the whole thing right now, but that is my fucking go-to and a fun little story that I always have, because I could never shut the fuck up. Um, way back one of the day, when I was poor as shit when I was I still am, either way I couldn't afford an ipod, had an mp3 player and I would. I would put my, you know, I put my little earbuds in, I would listen to music as I'd go to sleep. I'd take it, turn it on, pop them in and just go to sleep. All my music. It doesn't matter what it is. And I had Thriller. I had Thriller on it, but I can remember.
Speaker 3:So I was at that point of falling asleep. I would take it off shuffle and I'd let it play. Start from whichever song and let it play, and I knew the order of my songs, and so I was like one or two songs away from Thriller, it doesn't matter and I was playing through and I was at that drifting kind of bit. I'm not in deep REM sleep yet. I was in that drifting sleep. I was listening to the music.
Speaker 3:So I was kind of like half-ass falling asleep and I remember like kind of waking up and I just hear that part of the song going. So I just so like, and my room is pitch black and clear as day in my ears I hear Vincent Bryce fucking like talking in my ears and I am absolutely scared when I tell you it wasn't like a sleep paralysis demon that like made me go stiff. It was just the fact that there's a pitch black room and I hear this voice fucking talking to me so creepily. I was frozen with fear and I'm literally like scanning the room back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and I can't see anything.
Speaker 3:And I was just like, and like I went to like kind of move back a little bit and like I felt my mp3 player. I was like, oh my god, that's so funny. You fucking idiot just like close your eyes and go back to sleep. I was like, oh my god, I'm listening to music. Oh, jesus christ, it's the part from thriller. So I close my eyes and I go back to sleep instantly and then how does the song end?
Speaker 2:doesn't it end with like a creepy laugh?
Speaker 3:spoiler alert vincent price laughing his ass off all fucking demonically. Guess what startled me out of my fucking sleep? Oh my god, yeah, fond memories of that song, but it's in the middle of a like a freddy krueger nightmare no, it's just my own fucking nightmares, like I actually.
Speaker 3:You know, they didn't think it was possible for a 16 year old boy to have heart attacks, but sure the fuck enough. I did. Holy shit, man. It was. Oh, jesus christ. I'll never forget that. As funny as no matter how hard I hit my head, I'll never fucking forget that oh no too soon. Too soon, but um yeah that song's overrated as fuck, but I still love it and I respect it.
Speaker 2:So mine is wannabe from Spice Girls.
Speaker 3:You shut, your Never mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no I mean I love it, but it's oh God. The song is so fucking overrated.
Speaker 3:If there's songs that I'm, if there's songs that I'm completely over, like if I never hear them again, I can die happy, but like I never hear them again, I can die happy, but like I still love them, I still sing my fucking face off any of those pop songs from the 90s, any boy band, any you know yeah blonde that was on tv once, britney spears, christina aguilera, jessica simpson actually just all of them, just every single.
Speaker 3:yeah. Whatever bullshit song, I love every single one of them. Just every single pop. Whatever bullshit song, I love every single one of them. I will sing my face off. I was hardcore Backstreet Boys fan. Eat your heart out in sync, suck a dick. But if I never heard another song by any of them ever again, I'd be fine. Yeah, but my day's not ruined if they do come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little bit of nostalgia a little bit, a little bit so this is this is what I really want to get into. Um, and it's. This band is garbage and I'll die on that hill. So I really, I really want to get this out of my system.
Speaker 3:Do it, do it.
Speaker 2:Fucking Pearl Jam.
Speaker 1:Fucking.
Speaker 2:Pearl Jam. I have never understood the appeal. I can't stand it. I don't like Eddie Vedder. I don't like how he sings. I don't like how he looks. I don't like how he sings. I don't like how he looks. I don't like the band. I hate this band so much and I'm going to die on that goddamn hill there. I said it.
Speaker 1:I got it out of my system.
Speaker 3:You got it. Oh gosh, you feel better now.
Speaker 2:I do. Good, good, I do. I'm releasing it into the world. First piece of mail will probably be some kind of fucking hate mail. I can't believe you said that about eddie better no, it's gonna be eddie better who writes here.
Speaker 3:he goes, look, he's gonna go like, hey, what are you talking about? My band like that. For what are you talking about? We just have all the time, we write all the music and we have a good time, right.
Speaker 2:So who's your? This band is garbage. You can't say garbage.
Speaker 3:I feel like the rest of the world copied me Not to sound like that. I can't say garbage. I can't say garbage. I can't say garbage. I can't say garbage. Oh, the big garbage is the cow's garbage. Ah, all right, fuck it. Oh god, I feel like such a fucking hipster, but like I've always hated Nickelback um I don't even know if it's so much Nickelback.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I just think they're fucking singers of a piece of shit and it's like I really do. I just think he's a fucking piece of shit and there's plenty of stuff of him being a piece of shit Like I just never liked. I just never. I'm sure if I really sit and I think about it, I probably could think of a band that I there's bands that I just like, that there's bands that I just I just don't like and I just don't listen to. But no matter how much I don't like a band, I can always find at least one song by them that I like.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I always, always, always, always, so like, so Nickelback. So I would have said I don't know if this counts, but they have their song, how you Remind Me, but Avril Lavigne's cover of it blows the original out of the water, so they no longer get credit for that song. She gets credit for that song, yeah, but they had this one song. They had this one song, lullaby yeah, that one grabs a very specific heart string with me and I think it's a pretty solid song. I like that song a lot. And the rest of their shit is just like I don't give a flying fuck. I don't like Five Finger Death Punch, I don't like Five Finger Death Punch at all. But same thing, I can always find one song by them that I like, and I can always find at least one.
Speaker 2:At least one well, you're a special little soul, then yeah I, I fucking hate country music though I fuck I fucking hate country music shania twain doesn't count.
Speaker 3:Shania twain doesn't count. You want to know why? Because my mom said she doesn't count and I'm a terrified mama right, I'm terrified of my mama yeah, she'll fuck me up no, I remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shania twain she was. She was all the rage there for a while but like oh god country music oh no, I fucking hate it. It can all go to hell. There is more passion in rock and heavy metal music than I will ever find in country music.
Speaker 1:I've had more passion moving my bowels than country music oh no, no statement but, but, even, but, even, but, even.
Speaker 3:Even. With that, I can still give credit where credit is due. If someone forces me to listen to a song, for whatever it is, um, I, I couldn't tell you who you guess the song, whatever it is I will always listen to a song, anyone.
Speaker 3:I don't care it's a country song, I don't care. If, if I genuinely like and respect you, you tell me listen to the song, I will listen to it. Um, my wife has family in canada. We went to visit them last uh, last year. She has this amazing cousin out. She actually was born and raised in Ireland, not too far from my hometown where my family resides, so I love her to death. She thinks the greatest song that was ever written in the history of the world ever is the song Tennessee Whiskey. So I listened to that song and I was like you know what I fuck with this song? I don't know who this is. I don't like the rest of the genre, but this song, this is a nice just yeah.
Speaker 1:I can get behind this. Oh wait a minute. Tennessee Whiskey. Just relax and listen to the song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, no. That's a good song, smooth, Is it? Chris Stapleton? Sure, whatever you say, I think, I think, but that's like.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To me that's like a bluesy.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's very bluesy. I think that's why it's more blues than.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't really consider that country.
Speaker 3:I will rip anyone's arm off and beat them to a, beat their family to a pulp in front of them and then them to a pulp afterwards.
Speaker 2:If you say that johnny cash is country, because he's not, well, yeah, I was gonna say, like you know there's, there's some like I guess you could say old, old country that you know. It's just probably because I kind of grew up listening to that and you know Johnny Cash and all that. But Johnny Cash is the country, so that doesn't count.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah no this new country.
Speaker 3:Ugh god it does piss people it pisses people off, and it pisses me off a little bit, the amount of people who told me that I'm a dead ringer for Thomas Rhett.
Speaker 2:I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 3:He's a country person that I was shown a picture of and I was like, holy shit, is that me? So I can respect it. See it, it's. It's pretty funny, um I have to look that I couldn't tell you one fucking song that man did. He's a good looking man, but um, but, uh, I couldn't tell you a fucking thing. But it's just, it's funny because it's like I fucking hate country music. Well, you look like a pretty country music singer, cool, I don't give a shit.
Speaker 1:It's not going to make me love.
Speaker 3:It's not going to make me love country music, but yeah, no, shania Twain doesn't count, cause I'm afraid of my mom, but also Fuck, even if people are getting my shit, it's just the same thing. It's that home for me. It's because I know my mother loves it so much that it just I can't help but think of any Shania Twain song. It doesn't even matter, it just instantly makes me think of my mother. Aww it really really does.
Speaker 1:That's sweet.
Speaker 3:I'm going to get really. She's probably going to get so mad at me for some specifics on this one, but when I tell you if this was, this was a hilarious, I found this to be like a funny moment to me. Honestly, I had a job not too far down the road from me and so, as you don't know, I don't drive because I got a busted ass brain and I have to get rides every now and then. Like you know, my wife's at work I, you know, when I first moved out here, you know it's I didn't have. You know, back back in connecticut I had my family and I had plenty of friends and family and everyone all over the place I could, I could call 100 people to give me a ride to work and have that out here. So found this taxi service and, um, shout outs to golden rule taxi in kalamazoo, michigan. You guys, unbelievable. I think I've, I think I must have used them well over two or three dozen times over the, uh, the couple years that we've lived out here. Every single time, if I ever had, every single driver I've had, they were the nicest, most welcoming, humble people, absolutely phenomenal. That's, they're not paying us for this advertisement or anything like that. I just that's just my personal two cents. They are a gold standard, gold star. I cannot speak highly enough of them either way.
Speaker 3:There was just one specific day I had to go to work. Um, I was so homesick we had lived that we had lived out here for we were coming up on a year. I want to say we're coming up on a year. We'd been back a couple of times too, but I don't know it. Just it was hitting me really hard this day. I felt like I had missed something. It was just a day. I just woke up and I was just like damn, I kind of miss home and had to go to work. So, you know, I called for the tax service. They and this Jesus Christ Oklahoma, the lady who comes and picks me up, she had given me a couple of rides before. Very, very nice lady, roughly around my mother's age, like I said, said I was. So I was just really just down and just missed home no I climb, I climb into this way, like they all.
Speaker 3:They all drive vans, they all. You know this is one of the things. I have vans, so I get in this woman's van. My mom had a van. You know she was the minivan mom. You know she load everyone up for this, that the other thing, and so on and so forth, right.
Speaker 3:So she's just getting this woman's minivan andivan and she's cut back a lot. My mom's a smoker and she smoked. This is a kid. She smoked Marb Reds, hundreds big motherfuckers, big baller. Right, marb Reds, right, wow, gangster, I told you man. My mom's a fucking gangster. Marb hundreds non-mental reds, right, and I think there was at a time of her life in your chest.
Speaker 3:If you, if, if, oh, this one of these are the fucking gangster. Um, there was a time I felt same thing, just just for my childhood. If there's a time I was like if my mom like fell and she had like scrape on her arm or something, like mama had a cut, she would bleed diet coke. Um, I just, I just it's so funny because it's it's small. Things like these aren't the most flattering things. Like I said, my mom is definitely gonna beat my ass if she listens to the episode. I get in this woman's van. I smell cigarettes. I see she's got the pack in the cup holder. It's a pack of Marb Red Hundreds. She's got a Diet Coke in the other. She's got a bottle of Diet Coke in the other cup holder and a little space between the front seats are like the captain's chairs in there. My mom's a big reader. My mom's a big reader. Her favorite author is Daniel Steele.
Speaker 1:There's a Daniel danielle steel book down there, oh my god. And then shania twain's um what's it called?
Speaker 3:oh, shania twain's still the one comes on playing. When I tell you I get in this car, I hear the song playing.
Speaker 3:I look around and I start fucking crying in this woman's van as she's giving a ride to work, oh, man it was man it was, and she just like she's roughly my mother's age and just talking, just like a couple of times, just talking with her, just like she reminded me so much of my mother, she really really does. Um, jesus christ, she was. Just the song just kind of starts playing and she's happened to like look back because you know it's like a 10 or so minute drive down the road, it's not like right next door, it's a bit ways it's like a 10 minute drive.
Speaker 3:She happens to look up quick and she sees me like wiping my eyes, just like shaking my head or something. She's like you, you know, make a small talk. It's like you know. It's like you know, hey, you know, you, you okay trying to make small talk. I was just explaining that to her and I was just like listen. I was like I was like I'm reaching this one, but I was just like I, jesus, like it's so funny, like how at home I feel right now, and it just like I said I was fine, I saw everything. Like I said I saw I smelled. I smelled the cigarettes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it took you back. It took you back.
Speaker 3:I didn't even have to see them, I could have told you. I knew what those cigarettes were. I saw the cigarettes.
Speaker 1:I smelled the cigarettes.
Speaker 3:I saw the Diet Coke. I I knew what those cigarettes were. I saw the cigarettes. I smelled the cigarettes. I saw the Diet Coke. I saw the book. All that it was just. But what sent me over the fucking edge was the music. It was Shania Twain. It was that song. Like I said, it's not just Shania Twain. Still, the one by Shania Twain is on my Mount Rushmore of songs. It is yeah, gone to the head On my Mount Rushmore of songs. It is yeah.
Speaker 3:Gone to the head, that song, that is a good song, it really really is it, just it. Like I said earlier about the concert I went to, I heard that one song, literally just that song started playing and I broke.
Speaker 2:You broke?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm fucking crying in this woman's van. She's trying to take me to work at like quarter after six in the fucking morning on like a Wednesday and it's all snowy and shit outside. It sent me home so hard I was eight years old on the way to like on the way home from school or like soccer practice or something like that.
Speaker 3:I wasn't the fucking 30 year old schmuck that I am with my problems in life and shit like that. I was eight years old. You know, with my soccer stuff, like just whatever it was, it was nuts, it happened in an instant, it's just yeah, you turned back into.
Speaker 2:You were just that little boy again yeah, did you call your mom. Did you call your mom right after that a?
Speaker 3:million percent did a million percent I called my mom, crying my fucking eyes out oh I called my mother before even I punched in and I still had some time.
Speaker 3:Whatever I have to call my mother, I call her and I was crying my eyes and she was like what the fuck is wrong? And as soon as I got my shit together, I told her to have my side just missed her and all that stuff and like what? And I explained it to her. We were having a good laugh and she's crying now too. At this point she's like oh, I missed you. So it was just, and I was telling her if we were laughing about it. I was like mom, I get in this woman's van, it's this one, it's that one, blah, blah and so on and so forth. And I was like and I was fine, I was just like. I told her I was smiling, I was good, I had that stupid, shitty fucking grin that I have. I had the little smirk on my face those first fucking notes I told those first notes hit and I just it all went to hell.
Speaker 3:It all just yeah, no. So, yeah, no it's. I call my mother almost instantly when I got to work yeah so it's just like I said. It's yeah, that's the, that's the, uh, that's a good story.
Speaker 2:That's a good story. I'm sitting, I'm just. Yeah, I know you can't like I just have the biggest smile on my face right now, that's such a cute story.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I have one with each of my parents. Same thing, just music, and with both my parents. Like I said, we ah shit, we just keep digging the grave. Fuck it. You know it wasn't perfect. You know my parents did their best yeah, um you know there's a lot of, there's a lot of parents do it. Definitely, definitely wasn't perfect. You know it was some stuff was pretty rough. We go through our very rough, some insanely rough patches yeah, but I know there's also people who had it much worse but, still um, but there was always god.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you couldn't guess, that was one of the constants, there was always music in a matter like how pissed off I was at the world and my father for whatever he did. Like I said, I owe shit, I, I, I owe so much of my love and knowledge of music to him. Because if you were, oh, what does so-and-so do? What does your mother do? What does your father do? Oh, not their job, what are they like? He goes. I say my father's a musician.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And very second is like an avid fisherman or an outdoorsman. So I would say but, but, but a musician is the first thing I said, because he's played drums for half a century, over half a century, um, and just it's a legacy it's a legacy that they've passed down and that's.
Speaker 3:It's really a beautiful thing it is, and so it's like he. So, like, no matter how pissed off I was with my father, at my father, whatever the hell happened, moody teenage shit, whatever music is always what calmed me down and it would just. You know it's following the breadcrumbs back to it. It was just like I wouldn't love or appreciate music without my father yeah so it always helps, whatever.
Speaker 3:It's like yeah, it did. It doesn't fix everything. It's not like oh man, we had this massive, horrible blowout and I just heard a song, oh, instantly. No, it wasn't. It took some time, but it was always music that got the ball rolling yeah towards whatever it is.
Speaker 3:It's just it was one of those. But yeah, I'll try to keep my story with my father shorter. But, um, some of the uh, the, the very first, the very first show that I played on a stage, my father came to. Um, it was, it was nuts we had just had, we had just had. It was on the.
Speaker 3:It was on the back side of one of our infamous quote unquote aggressive negotiations, if you will uh, huh um, it seems just whatever the hell, it was, just whatever the fuck like this, this, uh, this venue was in literally the basement of a house, like they converted it into a venue. It was literally the basement of a house and, um, I think we're playing. You know, we're playing a crowd of like 10 people, including the bandmates, family members and significant others, right so? We're so we're just about. So we're. Yeah, like I said, we're, we're. I'm what, maybe 20 years old or something like that one probably like 19 20 years old.
Speaker 3:You know there's. You know there's, there's, there's my girlfriend, there's the other guys. I guess you know the other dudes in the band. It's their girlfriends or their parents, or you know there's a little bit of a crowd for the bands that are going on later after us.
Speaker 3:But yeah maybe 20 people total. Um and uh, shirt and shit, man it was. It was just, but, like you know, my mind was ready for it. Like you put me on the stage, you put my, you put my guitar in my hand, I, I, everything suspends. I literally hang everything up and I'm completely different, just in the music, playing music right and it did it, nothing mattered about what it was doing my thing, you know, really in my element, just having a great time with it.
Speaker 3:Right before we were about the word, we're literally there and like the singers that you know the singers there was talking you know, we're making sure all it's set. We're about to give the countdown. It's, it's, it's almost stupid. Like, it's a cliche, shitty, like movie that was written literally right as we're about to start playing like our first song, my father comes walking in and, uh, this is, this was the. This was the very first time he ever saw me play like on, like on stage oh wow, you know we, you know, play in the garage.
Speaker 3:Like he was a drummer he would play, so I'd learn some of the songs he you know the bands he'd listen to. He up there playing his drums. I would just go. My amps were up, all my instruments were up there. I would just go up there, you know, plug in and turn on and we'd play along yeah, great time doing that, but that was the first time he saw me, as he would put it in my element, if you would yeah um, like I said, god, it was like it was either earlier that day or it was the day before.
Speaker 3:I hadn't spoken to him, I think it was the night before and I hadn't spoken to him all day long and we literally, like you know, it's like I was still living at the house, like we had breakfast, like we sat next to each other, didn't say a fucking word, like all that kind of stuff right, yeah, yeah he showed up to the show, um, and I just played.
Speaker 3:I could just remember just seeing this, this. I just, I, just god, I could just remember seeing his face the whole time, his face the whole time I'm playing. And he's just, he's like a kid on Christmas. He fucking hated every band and every song, not our versions of it, but just you know, he didn't really get into my music.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:But just he was like a kid on Christmas and finished playing ahead of you know, so on and so so forth, whatever the fuck it was. And we were done and um, I remember, yes, we were done. You got stage. I was like on a fun stuff, you know, girlfriend comes running over big hug and kiss and oh my god, blah, blah, blah, so that kind of fun stuff, you know. Then dad comes over and um'm like okay, someone's going to say something.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And he just gives me this, he just gives me this massive hug. He's giving me this huge hug and it's one of those very, you know, it's just one of those big, it's an embrace. It's not a hug, it's a full embrace.
Speaker 2:Right right and.
Speaker 3:God, I hope I can think hard enough. Big it's, it's an embrace. It's not a hug, it's an, it's a full embrace, right, right and um, god, I hope I can think hard enough. And like he said it before this, but I think that was the first time my father said that he was like proud of me oh and, like he knew, common ground it really was, it always was and it always will be, no matter how much we disagree on everything.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, music is, is it? And I? Just, I remember the other thing too, you know. No, they said that he was proud of me, but it was just like I. That was a very interesting time in my life where I had very different um career choices.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And slightly in between, um, he said listen, what you're going to do, you're going to do what you want to do. You want to do it's. You know it's what I'm your father. Whatever you choose to do, if you're shoveling the smell of last week's shit into the wind, if you're happy, I'm happy, something like that.
Speaker 3:You know some hardcore fatherly advice yeah if you're happy, I'm happy kind of yeah, yeah but he's like, but I'll say this um, he just like turned and he like pointed it's fine, I'm doing I'm literally doing the motion right now and you've never seen him do it but, like, he has this very specific motion of the way he points at something, to like make a point where he like shakes his finger at something, he's looking at the stage and he's doing that.
Speaker 3:He's just like that. He looks back at me, he looks back at the stage. He's still shaking his fucking finger. He goes like that's what you should be doing yeah he's yeah, he was like. I'm not saying you have to be a rock star. He goes like you can never stop playing music to any degree. He's not saying you have to sell out stadiums he, he goes. You just can't stop playing. You just can't stop playing music. You have to always do that.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, probably, like the musician and the artist in him, recognize the musician and the artist in you and you know that's, that's, that's, that's just, that's a really beautiful moment, Oklahoma the sun comes, sweeping down the rain and nowhere they went.
Speaker 1:That's just a really beautiful moment. Oklahoma Come sweeping down the rain and away they went.
Speaker 2:I did want to mention one of the times I've kind of deviated and I still don't necessarily consider this country music. It's more of like a bluegrass band, but it was band nickel creek and um, they were kind of like founded by allison krauss I don't know if you know who she is um. Do you know allison krauss?
Speaker 3:I do not so she's a.
Speaker 2:She's a bluegrass, I would say kind of like more bluegrass folk. I don't know that I necessarily would put her in the country genre, but anyway this band they have. They have a song called in the house of tom bombadil and I just thought you would get a kick out of that done you meet as soon as we turn this off.
Speaker 3:Guess what?
Speaker 2:the fuck I'm doing guess what I'm doing it's uh, it's early, but like um, yeah, guilty pleasures, like oh man, 90s rap like swing by savage swing by savage yeah hell yeah and love, yeah.
Speaker 3:Where the hood at dmx, go back and listen to that song. That's an offensive as fuck song, but I can't tell you how many times this, this shitty ass white boy. Literally yesterday, literally early, literally today, today, as I'm cleaning my fucking bitch ass apartment, I'm around here like dude.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, fuck yeah yeah, yeah, um so much but I was wondering to forever, yeah, okay, all right last little little squirrel and then you can I'll shut the fuck up. Wu-tang, wu-tang forever, wu-tang forever.
Speaker 3:Alright, last little squirrel and then you can. I'll shut the fuck up, I'll stop squirreling my daughter, my pride and joy, my first pride and joy, I got two. There's this amazing show on Nickelodeon, now on Paramount+, whatever called Tiny Chef. It's a super cute show. It's like a little, it's almost, it's almost like claymation, but it's a little like felt puppets in a way. It's like this guy, yeah. So it's just a little tiny chef. He's a little dude, right. I love little things like this one. So like um, the borrowers. You know the story, the story of like arietti and all this kind of fun shit. You ever see that movie, the borrowers yeah, yeah okay cool.
Speaker 3:So, like, I love movies like that, when there's like really tiny versions of stuff like little, like mouse people and shit like that. You know it's like oh, would they make their house stuff? Oh, their, their, their, their table is a is a button on top of a thimble. You know what I mean. And like yeah their.
Speaker 3:Their mirror is a really shiny nickel. I love shit like that. That's what the show is like. It's just he lives in this little tree stump and his, his stove is like a. It's like a tea light over like I don't know, like a, like a washer or whatever. I love that kind of shit either way. Um, he has this horrendous voice where it's like cartman but with like a lisp. So, my god, oh, my god, he goes. I'll try to do my best of like his impression. He goes like.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the tiny chef show in today's episode where we're gonna be plowing the expensive delicacies of france, right, like it's fucking. It's adorable, though, right, and she loves it. And about it's great though, because, like the big the, the intro to it, there's not a song, it's like a. And now the show is starting. Fucking rupaul is doing it. I love it. This is rupaul here to tell you we're going to watch the Tiny Chef show. I love it. Right Halfway through Fucking RuPaul, about halfway through the episode, he has, like you know, it's like, remember, like Blue's Clues, mail time and they go do mail.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, it's kind of like that. There's some noise kind of happens and he goes, oh time to dish with chef and there's some special guests that they have where he like runs to like his library. He puts like little glasses on, he gets like little index cards. You know, sometimes it'll be like a little kid like oh, it's our friend vanessa from walla walla, washington, and then there's some little girl who, whatever, every now and then they do have like a quote unquote celebrity. If you would, they had, they had the new guy from blue's clues on it. Whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:I'm luna like just started watching the show. It's like a day or so into her knowing what this show is and, um, I'm getting ready for work. I just get out of the shower. So yeah, so people don't think I'm a terrible parent out there. I only put the fucking tv on for her, like when I have to like shower and like get my shit ready. So she only gets like an hour screen time a day. Don't fucking get at me anyhow. So, yeah, so I put that show on for her and I'm like making my lunch and getting everything ready and I hear she goes today's episode of this with chefs. We have tiny chef's great friend, the wizard. I was like the fuck, he say. I look over. There's motherfucking RZA over on the TV on my kid show.
Speaker 2:I was like oh my God, is that RZA? Like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:And he was like it's the wizard and he was just like what's so funny? He's like. You know he's on a kid show, so he's not like.
Speaker 1:RZA.
Speaker 3:RZA Tiny Chef was know he's on a kid show, so he's not like rizzo. Rizzo tiny chef was like mixed up like apple pie contest or some shit like that one. And he was like getting ready to whatever he like dropped the apple pie and like as soon as he dropped the apple pie, everything was fucked, like he had to go do the dish with chef thing. So he goes, like, so, asking for a friend, if you made the most delicious apple pie in the world and maybe you dropped it, what would you do? And he goes. If I made the most delicious apple pie in the world and maybe you dropped it, what would you do? And he goes, if I made the most delicious apple pie in the world and I dropped it, man, I don't know. But you tiny chef, man, you're going to keep it 100. I believe in you For real. He was like it was the shit. I was like what oh?
Speaker 2:man, I was like that's awesome.
Speaker 3:I was like what the fuck am I? I was like that is 10% of the Wu-Tang Clan, right there on a fucking kid's show.
Speaker 2:What the fuck Did it low-key make you feel really old?
Speaker 3:Nah.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:No, what made me feel?
Speaker 2:old was when I see stuff like that, I feel really old.
Speaker 3:Nah, shit that makes me feel old is when I see Robert Irwin doing his goddamn underwear promos. He just did one two not only finding out that hayley you know which hayley I'm talking about, not only her getting married but then, like three months later, announcing that she was pregnant yes, yes yeah, yeah, for those of you who don't know, you uncultured swiner, you young shits, it was eminem becoming a grandfather that made me feel right, that made me feel fucking old. Yeah, it really did that, that eminem became a grandfather.
Speaker 2:I aged a thousand years he looks good to be a grandpa he looks amazing. I want to he gets better looking with age, I think so did tom brady, but I digress oh fuck tom brady, go ahead I would, I would um god, I would cry baby no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:This isn't a sports episode, but we are going to go same thing One more little squirrel and then we're going to reel it back in and hopefully you can keep your stuff together and you won't faint when I say this one. You say you got nice with age. I'm just going to go ahead and say it. Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
Speaker 1:Ugh.
Speaker 3:That was an involuntary noise. I've said it once, once, twice, a hundred thousand times. Can we please share and tag him in this, just for this one bit of this seven hour episode we're gonna have? If I look even half of a percent as good as he does at his age, I can die a happy man, jesus christ god, yeah, oh handsome. He has nothing to do with music, he's just handsome yeah, oh okay, yeah you, you triggered something in my brain now.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much oh shit, we forgot to set a safe word for that. We set a safe word for we're gonna get the boohoo we need to set a safe word for the yeehaws, oh shit right.
Speaker 1:Margaret thatcher naked margaret thatcher naked on a cold night. Margaret thatcher naked on a cold night baseball cold showers.
Speaker 2:Baseball cold showers oh well, what I wanted to ask you was um yeah, jeffrey d morgan, he's my one well oh, not that.
Speaker 3:That's how much. Oh, never mind, not that.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no proceed um, what is have you because you know I doom scroll a lot on tiktok? Um, have you discovered any artists or music from tick tock? Because I have and I want to talk about them just very briefly and in I've songs.
Speaker 3:Yes, I can't say I have discovered artists. I, I don't know the arts. I can like, I can tell you the songs. Or I say I could like, quote unquote, sing you the songs. I'm not gonna sing you fucking songs right now, um, but I but like there's songs that can like, oh, I know the one for tiktok, I know them from tiktok. And the one that, oh, let's see what is it. There's the song after dark. I learned from tiktok. I really like that one, that one's fantastic, um, I think the one that it has absolutely dominated. And for any of those who, who know my tiktok, um, I'm saying I'm saving this one song, um, I'm working. Yeah, that makes not too much of a shithead, but the song southbound oh, I'm saving that one.
Speaker 3:I'm safe. I'm saving that one. I'm working on one for that song. But that song I heard I was like I heard that song I was like that's like, it's like mufasa.
Speaker 2:Well, I came across this band called Creature Canyon, okay, and they have a song called Hot Streak. I just fucking love this song and they're just kind of just a cool band. They're just really neat. Yeah, just a kind of a just a cool band. Um, they're just really really. Yeah, I mean they're just it's. It's just a really really catchy, good song. You know, they're so cute with their fans and they have like this thing where they're like you know, you know fans that engage with us. You know, on that, engage with us on social media. When we come and play in your city, just get in touch with us and you know we want to have you come backstage with us and get to meet all of our early fans.
Speaker 2:And so I just wanted to mention them because I've interacted with them. They're really cool. Great band Hot streak. Wanted to mention them because I've interacted with them. They're really cool great band hot streak. I would encourage anyone to to um to listen to them, and I actually um had a little back and forth with them about um maybe being a guest on our podcast, so hopefully they will do that and we'll have a special another music episode with them.
Speaker 2:But that'd be sick, that'd be sick, yeah, yeah well, I wanted to close this out with just kind of a a little nod here. Do you have, um, if you could maybe shout out one song that you would recommend to our listeners to to listen to? What would it be?
Speaker 3:if I could listen, oh god don't overthink it oh, too late not to sound, so all right, I have to name a song. Can you name yours first and give me like two more minutes? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, you go ahead.
Speaker 2:So of course I would absolutely recommend any and all Sleep Token songs. If you don't know the band, you need to just literally pull up their albums, pick a song and listen to it. Literally pull up their albums, pick a song and listen to it. But I actually have a couple songs that I've been listening to. One is called Winter Pine by Holy Water. Really really love that song. It's the way that it kind of like starts out kind of a little acoustic and it just kind of builds up. The lyrics are beautiful, really good song I would recommend to people. And another one is pain by. I don't know how you say this, but it's built Bill Murray. I remember I recommended this song to Becca and she's like Bill fucking Murray and I'm like I don't know how you say the name, but it's Bill Murray.
Speaker 2:It's B-I-L-M-U-R-I, so I don't know how to say that. And then I would also recommend Jutes to anyone.
Speaker 3:If I have to pick one song, and one song only God splitting hairs. You know what it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 2:I listen to. You can do too.
Speaker 3:No, that's the thing I can't. I honestly can't, but I think, just for the sake of it we've talked about it before it means a lot to you. It means an insane a lot to me. Lacrima by Ghost. If anybody has to listen to a song, if you're. Everybody goes through dark times. Everyone has those dark days. Um, if you're going through it, if you know you're going to go through it and you want to be prepared for it, listen, listen to that song. And if you're going through dark times, listen to that song. I promise you it'll help.
Speaker 3:If and if you're going through dark times, listen to that song, I promise you it'll help if you know you're going to go through dark times or you want to be prepared for dark times, listen to that song and always think back on that song. Really, yeah, honestly, I'm not just saying it because we've talked about it before and our own personal ties to it. It is a very well crafted lyrically. It seems very simple if you think about it, but it's just something about it, like I said, it tickles the ear holes, just right um and it hits the parts of the brain specifically um, yeah, that one for sure.
Speaker 3:And if you are a romantic type, like, believe it or not, I am Forever and Always Bullet For my Valentine, specifically the acoustic version of that song. It's a very, very near and dear song to me. Spoiler alert it was our first dance song at the wedding, but it does just mean that you know same thing. It's just one of those lyrics, the song.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:How it just encompasses what love is it should be. The actual chorus of the song goes, and I quote forget about the shit we've been through. I want to stay here forever and always, and that's the thing that's important. Like I said, if you really do love that person, it doesn't matter what shit you go through. You're there forever and always. And um yeah, those songs are very, very deep and etched into me or just you? Know any song, just music.
Speaker 3:Never stop listening to music yeah, yeah if I could recommend any song to anyone, or any artist to any of our listeners, viewers, any of them. Don't stop listening to music and just if you don't like that one, try something else. Try something else. Keeps up. I guarantee you, I, I, I, I fucking promise and guarantee you you're gonna find something that's gonna make everything better yeah well said, fucking love music man, especially oklahoma, where the sun comes sweeping on the plains.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad we had a safe word jesus christ don't lie.
Speaker 3:Oh, and fun fact, I don't know any more words to that song than that.
Speaker 2:That's all I know all right, you want to, you want to take us out already cool cats and kittens.
Speaker 3:That's a wrap on our musical chaos. If you made it this far, congratulations. You now know far more about our playlist and you probably needed to, and you have more questions than answers. If, if any of our hot takes cause you trauma, uh, get a therapist and fucking deal with it. I'm only slightly sorry, but if I've introduced you to something new, you're very welcome. We'd love to know your soundtrack, your choices, the songs you that have saved you broke, you, rebuilt, you, tickled, you, assaulted you, but maybe not that bad. Tag us and drop them in the comments.
Speaker 3:I also just remembered like six more albums that we should have talked about. So when that happens, we're definitely going to talk about a. We'll definitely have our part two. One more bit before Angie kicks me out of here. We talked about ups, downs, less rights, dark times, light times. Music is anything and everything. Before you were anything, you were music. If we can be cliche and annoying a little bit more here towards the end, if there's a couple of things, random bands, random loops, just try to remember life is ours. We live it our way. Each time you fall flat on your face, just pick yourself up and get back in the race. Baby, you were born this way. That's all I got. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1:Oklahoma Oklahoma.
Speaker 2:Well, remember to like, subscribe, share and comment. Thanks for listening to the Black Curtain Club and until next time. Stay weird, stay loud and keep your playlist very unstable, just like us. Bye Say, bye, kyle.
Speaker 3:I'm done crying over someone like you.
Speaker 1:Bye, kyle you.
