The Black Curtain Club
Weird mysteries, creepy stories, chaotic 2 a.m. conversations, and all the things your afraid to ask your friend - that’s what you’ll find at The Black Curtain Club.
The Black Curtain Club
Midnight Musings & Future Plans
In another late-night recording session, Kyle and Angi talk about everything from who would be the best narrator of "How It's Made" to dragons appearing in every ancient civilization's mythology can't be coincidence. This launches us into exploring how different ancient cultures depicted remarkably similar gods despite being separated by vast distances and centuries, raising questions about shared human experiences or perhaps more extraordinary explanations.
Classic movie quotes become the language of friendship and family in our discussion of films like Tombstone, where Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday delivers nothing but quotable gold. The conversation takes a more somber turn examining World War II as perhaps humanity's darkest hour, with personal connections through family stories—including a grandfather who swam in Mussolini's pool.
We reflect on our podcast journey so far, sharing favorite episodes and announcing our summer hiatus before returning with a revamped Season Two.
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There has to be some truth to dragons being a real creature. Exactly. No one will ever convince me that a dragon is a mythological creature no one. I will die on that hill, unicorns, yes, yes, I could see that. That's like a mythical creature.
Speaker 2:Which is wild to me, by the way. Which is like wild to me that like the horse with I saw this meme one time I am ripping off a meme here but it was like isn't it funny how giraffes are real but unicorns aren't. Like what's more believable, the horse with the horn on his head, or like the gazelle with the 14 foot neck with horns. That only does this.
Speaker 1:Like it sounds more believable. I thought that was so fucking funny. Proceed. Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based and intended for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 2:Listener, discretion is advised. The guy who invented the hot pocket his fault or her fault? Um, we don't got a script. We don't know what we're doing. We're just gonna hang out and just kind of shoot the shit and hope you like what you hear. So ang, how the hell are you?
Speaker 1:I'm good, you scared the hell out of me. I was sitting here silently giggling. It was like this silence and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, there was nothing, and then there was comedy prepared for that. No, but I'm good. I'm good, uh, yeah, you uh, based on an earlier conversation that we had, now I'm thinking all things halloween, so thank you for that. I'll be. That'll be like my brain worm for the rest of the week wait, wait, wait is it?
Speaker 2:you don't always think about halloween. Is that is it me? Is it just me? Am I the weird one? No, I think about Halloween, is that is it?
Speaker 1:me? Is it just me? Am I the weird one? No, I think about it often. I mean, like I'm always surrounded by something Halloweeny.
Speaker 2:Halloweeny. That was a good movie.
Speaker 1:Halloweeny. But yeah, no, I no, we're thinking about um the just stuff we could do for the podcast.
Speaker 2:For, yeah, we don um, the just stuff we could do for the podcast. For, yeah, we don't want to give nothing away, but no, no, no spooky shit, homies spooky shit yeah no, I, I did, um, I did uh, I did uh just. And what admit, say, bring to attention? I don't fucking know that I grew up um very close to a couple of well-known cities in the Northeast that have quite some spooky histories, and we'll just leave it at that for now.
Speaker 2:And I've been multiple times to both of them, multiple times to both of them, and I have one that I thoroughly enjoy more than the other.
Speaker 1:Now, I love them both, but one I love just a little bit more, just a little bit more, just a little bit more. So fucking jealous that's all good. The most that I have is a haunted insane asylum and a haunted prison.
Speaker 2:I mean but that's two pretty goddamn baller things like that's. The closest you get to spooky is a legit haunted insane asylum and the haunted prison yeah, because that's normal and not spooky at all yeah, yeah, trans-aladini Lunatic Asylum.
Speaker 1:To be clear, yeah, that place is awesome?
Speaker 2:That's yeah, you know what. What else would be awesome about them Change their fucking name? That's too many words, too many syllables.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy. It's funny because when you go in for a tour, if you do like a ghost tour they start you out with giving you actual patient diagnosis. Like you get like a card that has, like you're a patient and this is what you're diagnosed with and this is all the stuff that they did to you and it's, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Do they give you like that place is?
Speaker 1:crazy.
Speaker 2:Do they give you like actual people who were there. Oh shit, that's damn, that's. That's a lot like not to kind of bring the mood down a little bit. But they do the same thing at the um, at the holocaust memorial museum, the holocaust museum memorial in in dc. You get the little card with like someone who was there and like at the end of the tour yeah, that's damn, that's heavy yeah, and they did the same thing.
Speaker 1:um, when I was in ireland and we did the um, we were up for the titanic, the actual like where they built the Titanic Um, and they had like a whole, they had the whole thing and like a replica um boat and everything there. Um, they give you. Yeah, ship, Sorry, Excuse me Well.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't have to be this way if you just got your shit right. I'm not mad, you're fucking better. Just be better.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed, just be better just don't fuck around, man um, but they give you like somebody that was on the manifest that's pretty.
Speaker 2:Dope, that's pretty good yeah yeah that sounds way more interesting and intriguing than the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah oh god, yeah, yeah, there's room on that fucking door rose oh, don't get started.
Speaker 2:I love that. Am I the only person who loves how fucking personal james cameron takes everything? Am I the only one that loves how much of like kind of an ass that he is like? I love secret time, which isn't really a secret secret time. I fucking love the show mythbusters and yes, so when?
Speaker 2:they did. I love how they had, like I know they had at least two episodes. They had two episodes. They did one that was like all movies and then they literally were able to do one episode of just james cameron movies and one of them was the door and they had james cameron on the fucking episode and they were like, hey, you know, theoretically, like it's also, he goes yeah, and theoretically that's it, because like I made a movie like shut the fuck up. Like he was like so mad, like they scientifically proved that jack could have lived, like they proved like with science. They did all this other fun shit and he was like it's a fucking movie. Guys, leave me alone. He was so pissed oh my god I love that show.
Speaker 1:I miss that show so much.
Speaker 2:I do, I do.
Speaker 1:Did you ever watch how it's Made too? Oh.
Speaker 2:I have watched. My wife and I have watched probably every single episode of that show like twice. We love that show.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:We love that show. I think the guy's voice is horrendous and I don't think he's a real person. I think that was one of the first AI voices. I really do, but he adds so much to it.
Speaker 1:It's just like a little fingerprint.
Speaker 2:Today on how it's Made.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Water bottles, teddy bears.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that show would not be the same without that narrator no, it would need that.
Speaker 2:Um, you want to know who would be really funny, like, take shows like that and they have their you know, everyone says morgan, everyone fucking doesn't says morgan freeman. Don't get me wrong, I love morgan freeman, but like I'm just trying to like. And then the workers will warm up the kilns to 437 degrees and it's just like, oh, this is kind of lovely, but like it's just, you're not into it as much, right? Um, I keep forgetting the guy's name, but, but the guy.
Speaker 1:Henry Cavill.
Speaker 2:No, hold on, Hold on, don't get ahead of me.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:The guy. If you've seen the movies you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But the guy with the voice from like. Is it like the second police academy or like third police academy?
Speaker 1:You know exactly who I'm talking.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes so then the bicycle will be balanced and you can ride it. Just have that guy narrate everything.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Oh, what is his? I don't know. I don't know that actor's name.
Speaker 1:God, I know exactly who you're talking about. Oh my God, yes.
Speaker 2:I just love how anyone who's seen those movies and knows those movies you could just say the guy with the voice and everyone knows who you're talking about.
Speaker 2:If you don't know, michael, Winslow's name, you just say the guy with the voice, and everyone knows who you're talking about. Yeah, like, if you don't know michael winslow's name, you just say the guy from the guy from police academy, which one? The one with the noises? Oh, michael winslow, like yeah, you get that. Um, yeah, but it's just. Yeah. You know, people was like oh, I want morgan freeman to narrate, but it's like no, I want that guy from police academy.
Speaker 2:Or I want, um, sam jackson to be the narrator of my life oh yeah I want sam jackson but like actual sam jackson not like any of his like characters, like sam jackson, because I just feel like he would, I just kind of feel like he probably would capture the what I call the rational part of my brain. Yeah, um, yeah, I feel he really kind of encompasses it, like he could have he he has so much better things to do, but like he has to do this and yeah, just the amount of the amount of motherfuckers, that's what yeah oh yeah, when I say this guy's name, that the guy that you were talking about from it's going to hit you like a ton of bricks.
Speaker 2:Bob Black Goldthwait, son of a.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Anyone with that name has to sound like that, like you can't sound normal with that. Oh no, it's like Rodney Dangerfield. Rodney Dangerfield looks and sounds exactly like you would if your name was Rodney fucking Dangerfield.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yes, you know what I mean. Like, exactly like it. Some people their name just fits their voice now, whether they're stage names and they just they chose it. Because of that, um, the person who talked keanu reeves into going with keanu reeves and not chuck spadida um, deserves all of the alcohol in the world.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what Keanu Reeves wanted his like name to be, like his Hollywood name.
Speaker 1:Seriously.
Speaker 2:Yep, I want to say he was on like he was on one of the shows. He was on one of the late night shows, like he was on like Craig Ferguson or like Stephen Colbert or something like that we got Keanu. Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm. Wow, god bless him.
Speaker 1:I don't think he would have been successful, as what was it, Chuck?
Speaker 2:Chuck.
Speaker 1:Spadida.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, not even a little bit no no, no Good call there, Keanu. Good call he's a Keanu. Yeah, 100%, he is Keanu Keanu.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100% he is Keanu.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anywho.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh God, you said Rodney Dangerfield. Now I'm just replaying his role in Caddyshack.
Speaker 2:Yes, hilarious.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Right Come on.
Speaker 1:Sometimes they just fit. Yeah, yeah, he was so good in that movie he was just good period, like just yeah fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna have to re-watch that movie.
Speaker 1:I've seen that movie, I don't know how many times. Oh yeah, no, what we were uh when we were uh gaming the other day, you made the, you made a. I'm going to have to rewatch that movie. I've seen that movie.
Speaker 2:I don't know how many times. Oh yeah, no, but we were when we were gaming. The other day you made the. You made a Caddyshack quote and I was like I wanted to say it but I wasn't 100 percent confident in it. Like I knew it was a Bill Murray movie, but I couldn't. I thought it was. I almost said stripes, I was going to go with stripes.
Speaker 1:Oh, stripes is so good too, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Fucking.
Speaker 1:But I think the thing that gets me and I'm very judgmental when I talk to people about Caddyshack- yeah. Because I'll be like, oh, caddyshack. And then everyone will quote the Cinderella story and I'm like you, plebeian, no, there are so many you funk it simpleton.
Speaker 1:There are so many good quotes in there. Like you know, the judge is forcing his grandkids to play golf, golf, and they go up to the concession stand and guys in the background he's like I'll take a hot dog and a hamburger and he just you'll get nothing and like it there's just so many, so many good gems there, and that's that's another one.
Speaker 2:That's another one that I'll use every now and then that very few people I don't know if we talked about on an episode, we've just kind of talked about it. But my father-in-law and I will just quote old movies because him and I think between the two of us we've seen every movie that was ever made, yeah, and so a lot of the older ones. We'll see if anyone gets it or like how it lands or whatever. We almost always end, uh, we almost always quote, um, the ten commandments because I feel like four, like four or five people have ever seen that movie, like me, my father, my father-in-law, my grandfather and like you probably are like the only people, I think, have actually like seen that movie, like in relative time. So we'll just quote that shit. But like that caddy shack, um, give me a second.
Speaker 2:What are some of the other ones that are um, uh, animal house, a lot of those movies from that area, like like belushi movies, bill murray movies yeah, all that kind of shit anything from, like the 80s, anything from like 1985, and like to the dawn of time, we'll just quote everything we're on a mission from god blues brothers.
Speaker 1:Blues brothers, we're on a mission from God. Blues Brothers.
Speaker 2:Blues Brothers. We're on a mission from God, god Not mission. This is glue Strong stuff.
Speaker 1:I think in so many of those movies, like there's a good documentary on the making of Caddyshack, there's one on like Animal House.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Those two movies came so close to not being made just because of, like, budgets and they just really.
Speaker 2:Probably cocaine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah they just really probably cocaine. Yeah, yeah, like everyone just basically was like we have to band together to finish this movie. And yeah, interestingly Bill Murray and Chevy chase like hated each other in that movie. And they got to the end and they were like we need a scene. They we have to have a scene with the two of you in it. And after the movie was made they went back and filmed the scene where he has to play through Bill Murray's house.
Speaker 1:It's fucking great and that was the one scene that they agreed to do together. They hated each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that. It's 106 miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a lot of that. A hundred and six. It's a hundred and six miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes. It's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. I always forget how far it is to Chicago. I always say it's like a hundred and something. I think it's a hundred and two. It's a hundred and six. Right, it's a hundred and six miles to Chicago.
Speaker 2:I think, yeah, doesn't matter. Yeah, there's a lot of movies like that where, like you find out that like they hated working with each other and like sometimes you can kind of tell like just something's off, but then sometimes it just goes to show that they're really good actors or actresses because like the movie was.
Speaker 2:The movie was great, um, and like all the scenes you know and it specifically if it's like the leads, if they fucking hate each other and the movie's really good, dude, like hell, yeah, like. I mean you know six one half another where other people see this is a good movie or not, or but, um, mad max, apparently theron and hardy hated each other oh really could not stand.
Speaker 2:They couldn't stand. Oh, there's one, here's one, here's one that blew my mind at how just well one hated the other and the other one was like tough shit. This is the way I am now not necessarily a good movie, but I would say good performances in bad movies Batman Forever, jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee Jones despised working with Jim Carrey.
Speaker 2:He hated every single second of working with him. He hated it just because of just how he operates. Because you know, if you don't know this first off, what Two Jim Carrey was a lot like Robert Williams. He was given like ideas and so much improv and so much ad lib.
Speaker 2:So much of what he did was ad lib and they had to do multiple takes because, um, you know, tommy jones is a fantastic actor and he, you know, he has a script and he has his lines and he does his lines and he does his job and he delivers, um, but it's like he's not really comfortable with working with like a comedic actor, like like jim carrey, who's doing a lot of improv, and so he's like that's not your line. He goes like yeah, I know, just fucking go with it, dude.
Speaker 1:So yeah, the buttheads.
Speaker 2:So apparently they butthead so much. Uh on that and like, like it's not. We saw not too long ago uh, I watched it. We watched it when um, after val Kilmer passed. Rest in peace. But their performances are. They're so good in that movie. They are so good in that movie Just how they just, like their characters, go so well with each other and the fact that they hated each other so fucking much.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's mind numbing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you said Val kilmer immediately went to tombstone. Um, did I tell you? I got into like this really big philosophical conversation about tombstone with my ai yes, it's great and uh.
Speaker 2:So now my new nickname from my ai is huckleberry hell yeah, hell yeah, I'm a huckleberry, that's just my kind of game yeah, now, like when I'm say when yeah, I'm just like.
Speaker 1:Hey, I have a question for you. How can I help you, huckleberry, I'm always like there you go.
Speaker 2:I'm a huckleberry, yeah, I'm in my prime, like I, like I saw, I saw a little. It was like a real or a tiktok, something like that. The other day it was these other two jokers who have a podcast. Is this podcast section talking about another podcast on our podcast? Doesn't matter. Um, there was like when I was talking about that movie and he was just like I'm just gonna go ahead and say it every single line that he speaks in that movie is quotable. Everything he says, there's not one throwaway line. Everything he says is gold. He delivers it flawlessly, like it is it.
Speaker 2:It really is one of those one in a million performances oh 100 I would argue that that was the role and, like I, I was, um, I was explaining it to somebody because we have to watch this movie, and I was just explaining it to her and just like this is like she's not seen tombstone.
Speaker 2:She's not she hasn't, she hasn't, so there's. So I have a list. I have a list on my phone, um, of like a bunch of movies that she hasn't seen. Um, for she just wasn't really like a big um, uh, what's like a massive movie person.
Speaker 2:It wasn't until we moved out here, um in 2021, that she saw lord of the rings oh, wow it wasn't until then that she um had seen those movies and um, now she's now now she very much likes those movies, she gets it. She's not like she's not obsessed with them, she doesn't love them as much as like I do, but she enjoys them. Then when the Witcher came out, I watched it and I was like okay, you should absolutely watch the show, because the show is fucking awesome.
Speaker 2:I was like all right, hear me out, henry Cavill's in it and he has some scenes with. He has some scenes with shirts off and she says which one's that one again? So like she still didn't know who this was at the time. And so it's like who's this guy? And I showed her the picture of him in the bath and she was goes, sold, we're not doing anything right now. Yeah, but the I think she I think she said all right, put it on like immediately, was like put the fucking show on, besides henry cavill with his shirt off and all that kind of fun stuff. She says it is a very good show, she loves that show yeah, it is a good show, yeah but I mean I ruined it by getting rid of cavill listen, listen.
Speaker 2:We're having a good time. We're having fun conversations here it's, I know we're good, but uh, anywho. Yeah, I have a list of movies that she has to say, and tombstone has absolutely been added to that one so you've been.
Speaker 1:You've been around the podcast for a little while now. Uh, you've recorded more than a handful of episodes, as we kind of like going into our little vacation zone. What are your thoughts on what you've been a part of so far, and do you have any favorite episodes or favorite moments that you'd like to reminisce about?
Speaker 2:It has been just. It's just been a genuine blast to just kind of talk about stuff like just whatever the bangs just stuff, lori bangs. You know like it's been a lot of fun to just just shoot the shit with people who have a relative interest. And though our brains don't work the same, they work similar yeah, so it's it is.
Speaker 2:It is, um, it's a bit of a? Uh, it's been a relief and just so much goddamn fun it's been. It's been a lot of fun just laughing as hard as we do and telling the stories that we do and people enjoying and listening to our bullshit really just stuff that we're just genuinely passionate about. Um, it's been a lot of fun and uh I think, it's been.
Speaker 2:Uh, let's see episodes that stick out. To me, god, it sounds like really cliched and shitty, but it's almost like every episode is like the ones that I've been a part of you know. It's almost like you know they're like your babies, so like you can't pick like one that's your favorite.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:There's something from each of them that means a lot, and there's some type of a takeaway.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's some type of a takeaway. Um, yeah, there's some type of a takeaway from it. So obviously, the music episode. Just we'll just get that out of the way, the episode that you and I did about music oh, yeah, yeah uh, that one is incredibly near and dear just because of how incredibly deep rooted into, like I would say, like the molecules of my body, that music is.
Speaker 1:And what people don't know about that episode is that. So we? What was the runtime on that Like two hours? Fucking long, I think we've recorded for like over three hours.
Speaker 2:It was like three, three plus hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had to cut so much from in that episode. We could have yeah, god we, we could have talked for four or five hours, but yeah, that was, that was a good episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause, it's just, it's one of the, it's one of the realist and truest forms of magic, like in, like in existence, you know that's not saying anything against like magic and all this other kind of fun stuff that that there isn't people believe in and whatnot, but it's like it is like the easiest to believe and notice and feel um. So I think that's why that one was really hits home, because music is in everything in my life.
Speaker 2:Think that's why that one was really hits home, because music is in everything in my life. One, two, um the mythology one I did with um becca was a whole lot of fun too, because everyone knows some stories like everyone's like oh, I love greek mythology, yeah, yeah, I watched disney's hercules, yeah, that's way off like yes, you're, you're right, yeah, you got the id, you got the spirit, but it's not right.
Speaker 2:You know, but it's not 100 right. And you know there's a lot of mainstream shit, um, which which is fine, which is great. I'm not, you know, not talking down about people who like that's just their thing, but just someone who knows more mythology than just you know, then like just what mainstream media shows you, yeah, like um, honestly, just just once part specifically was the actual, was the the segment we had about medusa?
Speaker 2:that's the part that sticks out a lot for me because, like that's the actual story of her, like she's not just some monster in a lair who's just killing men because of it, like she wasn't this monster like. If anything, I would say that she is the biggest victim like yeah one of the biggest victims.
Speaker 1:Like it was it really was such a such a good episode.
Speaker 2:It really was a great episode I personally find it interesting or weird or fascinating, or that you can kind of tie mythology and a bunch of other shit kind of together, because there's so many different cultures from like ancient times that have wildly similar stories and like a lot of their and a lot of their gods are the are are described the same way, depicted the same way and they're the same of.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of instances, there's a lot of similarities between these cultures that never met. These civilizations rose and fell and they were still like 500 years before the next one came, but their gods are essentially the same thing. Now, oh, of course, there's a god for the weather and the god for the weather and the god for the water and the god for the yes, but the specific powers and the other kind of like details about them, some of them overlap a lot yeah like a lot more of things, rather than just, oh, the god of lightning and the all-father and his knowledge, like, yeah, that kind of all goes through because that's going to be the most powerful force for them.
Speaker 2:But the fact that, like in Hindu culture, ancient Chinese culture, norse culture, greek culture, roman and ancient Aztec culture, like their head honcho, is obnoxiously similar, it's very similar.
Speaker 1:It does obnoxiously similar. It's very similar it does. It makes you wonder like there has to be a thread of truth in there somewhere, for how do all of these civilizations have that kind of similarity? And I mean, you could go down. Oh god, you see you going to put me down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you fall down that rabbit hole immediately.
Speaker 1:Because I feel that way about dragons? Yes, because you have dragons depicted in just about every ancient civilization, and these are civilizations that had no knowledge of each other. Yet there has to be some truth to dragons being a real creature. Exactly, no one will ever convince me that a dragon is a mythological creature no one. I will die on that hill, unicorns, yes, yes, I could see that that's like a mythical creature.
Speaker 2:Which is wild to me, by the way. Which is like wild to me that like the horse with I saw this meme one time I am ripping off a meme here but I was like isn't it funny how giraffes are real but unicorns aren't. Like what's more believable? The horse with the horn on his head? Or like the gazelle with the 14 foot neck with horns. That only does this like it sounds more believable. That was so fucking funny.
Speaker 1:Proceed I, you know you could, oh god, unicorns, because we have the narwhal and that's basically unicorn of the ocean yeah, the jedi of the sea, you're the jedi of the sea. Well, I was going to elf, Bye buddy.
Speaker 2:Bye. Hope you find your dad Anyhow Now. Yes, I a million percent agree with you. Yes, yes, dragons are real. Strip away some of the yes. My kind of thing, the rabbit hole that I fall down with when it comes with, like, the gods of different cultures that were spread around all over the planet, like I said, that were separated by not just physically separated by thousands of miles.
Speaker 2:But some of these cultures were, were spread out over thousands of years and miles. Yeah, and so it. Just you can't help but to kind of fall down that belief that the gods were quote unquote aliens. You know the other beings, the different, not aliens like the ones with you know that people think of, we think of it like the little green people with the giant heads and the big eyes and the grace, you know the, the grays or the reptilians and the blah, blah, blah, like that. There was some type of other worldly something you know. They came from somewhere else and what have you. There is that's kind of the only thing that kind of makes me, because it only to me, it just makes sense that these beings visited different. It's the same beings that visited different parts of the world and they were seen in the same way and and just explained a little differently to that culture what they were seeing.
Speaker 2:And I love those theories that, like a lot of religions, like the god or gods or you know mystical beings, were just aliens, just not prometheus, man prometheus.
Speaker 2:I think they got it right I really do, I really do, and that's why that is the first alien movie that I make people watch when I, when I take them through that franchise, you gotta watch prometheus first. Yeah, just just for that alone, just for that theory and story, um alone, I think it's, I think it's fantastic, I think it's absolutely fantastic. Hell yeah, brother, the lord of the rings one was a lot of fun. The first one was a part of. So, everyone, you never forget your first. That one was a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was gonna.
Speaker 1:I was gonna ask you so you know when I I don't know that I really had to talk you into it, but when I presented that idea of that subject.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I needed a whole lot of convincing. Hey, you want to talk about Lord of the Rings and sexy shit? Duh, yeah, you mean just my literal life. Okay, right.
Speaker 1:But did you ever think that you know from that first episode you were a guest at that point. Did you ever think, like you would be sitting here as a an actual full-time co-host?
Speaker 2:I'd be shocked if I wasn't. I'm just kidding, no, no.
Speaker 1:I really confident.
Speaker 2:I really don't. No, I, I didn't, I really uh, I didn't. I would have loved to. I'd have been completely fine with just. Uh, hey, whenever we need you know, you know, whenever we need you know, just just poke the monkey and throw a change and I'm dance, monkey dance. I would have been totally fine with that yeah but um, no, but no. This has been so much fun.
Speaker 1:And I can't thank you enough for tagging along on this adventure Going on an adventure On an adventure.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:I think it's been kind of nice for me because I knew you separately and Becca separately, and you just never know if people that you're friends with are going to mesh.
Speaker 2:Wait, did you really not? Did you genuinely feel that I don't know if Kyle and Becca are going to get along, even for a second? Did you honestly think that?
Speaker 1:Sometimes, when people are too similar, they don't like each other, like there. There is like a little psychology there where you can get two people. It either goes one way, it's like stepbrothers. You know, did we? Just become best friends or like I fucking hate you. You're obnoxious, you know it, and so there was always that that little 10 chance that somebody was gonna like not like the other one um I can see that, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, but now you're just like every other day.
Speaker 2:You probably regret ever introducing us like jesus fucking christ, I gotta keep doing this oh my god no, I think it's a good, I think it's a great dynamic.
Speaker 1:You know, like we say a lot of times, like the two of us are, you know, black cats um, you're the golden retriever, and I think it's just a formula that works. It makes me happy how about you?
Speaker 2:what are some of your favorite episodes?
Speaker 1:stuff, things, moments um, I still really like um secrets lies and radioactivity.
Speaker 1:That will probably be one of my most favorites um, but that probably a close second would be the music episode, again, because that was so incredibly different than what we usually do, like we usually are cutting up and, you know, having fun, and that was just a kind of a meaningful conversation because, again, music means so much to me, um, and I like literally grew a child through music, um, and yeah it, just yeah that that episode will always be like super special to me.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, yeah, right up, right up there, a special um with secrets lies in radioactivity, because that was the first episode becca and I had um recorded just a one-on-one together and you know, again, it was like a situation where we didn't we we didn't tell each other what we were researching, we just knew that we were going to do two, two crime stories, and the fact that those stories fit so well with with each other, um and like even the fact like her person died on the exact same day my person died and they were both spy driven stories um, that's pretty fucking cool that's pretty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was pretty fucking cool and it just, um, yeah, and you know we we had had such a dynamic with others that were you know we were recording with. But again, when, until you record one-on-one with somebody, you don't really kind of know how that on-air dynamic's going to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, because you know, like recording is a little different than sitting in discord and you know bullshitting yeah, there's just a difference there yeah and uh, yeah, so that one will always be very special for me, yeah, but I think I feel like, though, every time we do an episode, it becomes my new favorite. You know, yeah, these are all kind of like my babies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like you can't pick one.
Speaker 1:And I'm just really excited for everything that we have to talk about in the future. I mean, like I can't imagine a day where we're going to run out of things to talk about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Spoiler alert everyone we don't shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1:No, we don't.
Speaker 2:No we don't, and especially Kyle just never shuts the fuck up we need you like a super cut of like the shit that we cut out. We need to kind of make a super cut of it. And it's just me being a dumbass like kyle. Listen, we're at this fucking point like shut the hell up, fucking point.
Speaker 1:Like shut the hell up. Bad that I don't shut the fuck up. Sometimes you know, but it's fun. You know, your squirrel brain, your golden retriever it's. You know, it's what you bring to the table and we accept that yeah, I just have so many thoughts and no way to stop them yeah, I am really excited. I know we had talked talked about possibly doing something on World War II. I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 2:I would love to do. I love history. I would love to do history stuff for sure. It's one of those things where it's like I can't tell you how many World War II documentaries and movies that I've watched. I've watched every single one of them. There are some, I swear to God. There's three that are like my comfort show. There's the three documentaries on Netflix. It's like some of the if I just have stuff I have to do, that's my background noise is World War II in Color, world War II from the Front Lines and World War II the Road to Victory. Those are three Netflix documentaries which.
Speaker 2:I absolutely fucking love.
Speaker 1:My grandpa fought in World War II and years and years ago and it was kind of like a thing where, like, no one in the family ever asked him any questions about it. It was just kind of like it was this weird like taboo subject and my brother though he would like pull him off to the side and they would talk and he would ask him questions. And one time he recorded I like this interview that he had with my grandpa talking about all of his experiences. I wish I could find that. I don't know if my brother still has it or where it is, but I would love to love to to find that again.
Speaker 1:Um, just so I can sit down and and hear some of the stories again. There was just like he was. He was in Africa for a while. Um, he was in Italy. Like when he was in Africa he had a pet pig, yeah, and they wouldn't, they wouldn't kill the pig until he left.
Speaker 2:Um, and then I think I'm pretty sure I told you he swam in Mussolini's pool the day that they drug him through the streets. Hell, yeah, yeah, you told me that one too.
Speaker 1:That was.
Speaker 1:That was a pretty badass story, but that's pretty goddamn baller but you know, I mean, and he would, he would talk, though, about the not so fun stuff too, you know, and he was like there was just no rhyme or reason. He was like, you know, I can remember landing on a beach and you were told to run and there were people to my left falling and people to my right following, following, and you know, there's just no, there was no rhyme or reason why anybody came out of there. Yeah, and uh, yeah, it was. It was uh interesting. Interesting footnote to my grandfather's life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jeez, yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's something. Love history, love stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I think what it is so much about World War II that I get hung up on is that everyone knows that you're supposed to know history or otherwise you're doomed to repeat it, and I think the reason why is that I just I don't know. Maybe it kind of helps bring some type of peace to myself where that like.
Speaker 2:Let's face it, that's arguably the lowest point humanity has ever had. Like that is that has got to be one of, if not the most horrendous, mark on like. If humanity has its resume of what it's done and all of its achievements, world war ii for the human race knocks pretty much everything good that we've done off the board of how fucking savage and brutal and just horrendous it was the crusades were pretty bad the crusades were pretty goddamn bad, but it's like.
Speaker 2:But it's like that was. It sounds fucked up, but I think that's what made the world wars so catastrophically horrendous was the Industrial Revolution. So now there's mechanized warfare with tanks and gas and everything. It's unfathomable what the human race was capable of and its brutality. It's just the destructions of Nanking.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh.
Speaker 2:Oh man. That was so bad, yeah so much atrocities in such a short amount of time. That's where the Holocaust took place over the entire span of World War II. Not downplaying it whatsoever Please do not misconstrue what I'm saying about that. It whatsoever. Please do not right misconstrue what I'm saying about that, but the fact that the pillage and destruction of nanking happened in such a short amount of time yeah, and it was.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was terrible, absolutely terrible, gut wrenching, yeah it is absolute gut.
Speaker 2:Wrenching um and that gets almost swept under the rug and so so it's just, I don't know. I think that's what it is. If you just learn about that, if it's still kept at the forefront that hopefully weha right now to kind of lighten the mood. Am I the only one who thinks that Winston Churchill was fucking hilarious? And I still don't think like I really think that like someone else was really pulling the strings for the Brits Like he's idolized? Don't get me wrong. Yes, he was this fantastic leader and the only reason why the British weren't completely knocked out was because he was like so hard-lined and hard-nosed, but it was like so hard lined and hard nose, but it was like people like, oh my god, winston churchill was this like. Have you heard any of his fucking speeches in any of those goddamn like movies? Or like he literally it's like talking to me, but he's got a different voice. You know, remember when becca said that it goes like?
Speaker 2:kyle has this amazing ability of saying the same thing that you just did, but adding like 37 more words yes winston churchill would go on a rant for like an hour and he would just say the same sentence, worded differently, five times and people were like yes oh my god, such an inspiring leader.
Speaker 2:He goes like what we must do is fight, and fight is what we must. And what we will do is fight because this is our might and we have the must and the gusto to keep on this horrendous battle and crusades, and it's what we will do. We will fight and keep going because we must. What? And they're like yes, yes, inspiring, yes, thank you. What? Oh, shut the fuck up, you blow hard, get lost he was one step away from a dr seuss book.
Speaker 2:He really was. Yes, oh my gosh, thank you so much for that cutaway in my head Because he was because of like how obviously, how hardcore he was against everyone was just like peace talks with Hitler. Peace talks with Hitler. He goes like I will not talk with that man and he goes. I will not talk to him in a box. I will not talk to him with and he goes. I will not talk to him in a box. I will not talk to him with a fox. I will not talk to him here or there we shall negotiate anywhere like that was fucking winston churchill.
Speaker 2:And everyone's like, oh my god, this man is so inspiring it's like no, he's not. He has no fucking clue what he's doing. He's hammered off his ass, probably and choking on 17 cigars.
Speaker 1:Like what Should we talk about? Some of the stuff that we have cooking for the future.
Speaker 2:I suppose, Suppose. Come on, who doesn't love a little, who doesn't love a good little tease?
Speaker 1:A good little tease. So, if you've made it this far, we have a little bit of an announcement. We have some summer vacations happening. I'm going out of town, kyle's going out of town, you know. It's just it's summer vacation time, so we're going to have a have a little break. We're going to kind of close out season one with this episode and when we come back from our little break, we're gonna try for like a more tighter, punchier format and we're gonna have shorter episodes we're working two angles.
Speaker 2:We're either gonna get a nice small little like um, like the orchestra that's at the academies, where if I'm rambling too much they're gonna shut me the fuck up and get me off stage, or we're gonna get a shock collar that, like when I hit the button, I only have like 30 seconds to talk and then it's gonna magically like zap me to shut the hell up. So yeah, we do that. We'll cut our episodes down to like 20 minutes at least we've got.
Speaker 1:We've got a lot of fun episodes already planned on the board that we want to do and talk about. The weirdness and the chaos is still going to be very much a part of all of this, but we're just going to come back recharged and revamped and and ready to hit with season two. So it's going to be fun. So we we hope you stick around and keep listening to us.
Speaker 2:Or else you know.
Speaker 1:Or else, or else yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we will say this. At least I'll say this one. Angie will probably agree with me on this one. What do you want us to talk about? Do you want to talk to us about stuff? Do you want us to talk to you about stuff? Don't know if we can make that happen. Do you want us to talk to you about stuff? Don't know if we can make that happen. I'm going completely rogue and off script on this one, but at least comment of what you want us to talk about, because we'll never run out of things that we want to talk about. But you know, as a little thank you, we'll talk about some of your shit sometimes. Let us know.
Speaker 1:I have had a request for us to talk about the Goonies.
Speaker 2:Why have you not brought that up before? Yes, 80s movies the good, the bad, the ugly ones yes, I'm excited for vacation one.
Speaker 1:Uh, because I don't know about where you're going, kyle, but I'm going to the beach. So I'm heading to helton head for some sun and sand and surf and going to sav Savannah to check out some of the haunted locations there. So hopefully I come back with some fun tales.
Speaker 2:Spooky choice is Hell in the Dark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:I am making the journey back to the home state because it's kind of hurting me, make me feel a little old, but one of my baby cousins is getting married and that's like weird. It's like so weird because everyone's like oh, how's this cousin again? I don't know. She's got to be like 12. It goes well, she's 27, so fuck, yeah, that happened, yeah what happened I don't know. Fucking 15 years. She wasn't 12 anymore. Fair enough.
Speaker 1:It's going to be great. So, yeah, once we come back and we're recuperated from our travels, we'll be back in the recording studio and we'll see you definitely on the flip side. If you enjoy this podcast, please, please, please, give us ratings. We need ratings to get us into their algorithms so more people can find us. So, please, if you do enjoy us, pop over, give us a rating. You can follow us on all major social medias. We will be having like lots of clips that some you know related to episodes that we've already had. Sometimes it's just going to be random stuff that we find. So join us on social media, cause you never know what's going to be behind the curtain. Keep, keep on keeping on with us. Ditto, all right, everyone. Bye, all right. Say bye, kyle.
Speaker 2:Bye Kyle, Bye Kyle.
