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Tales of the Deep: Oceanic Menace
The vast, mysterious depths of our oceans have always captivated human imagination—drawing us in while simultaneously terrifying us to our core. When you realize that 75% of our planet is covered in water, yet we've only explored a mere 20% of what lies beneath the surface, the implications become truly unsettling.
From the megalodons—prehistoric sharks potentially larger than blue whales that some believe still patrol the deepest waters—to the striking similarities in sea monster descriptions across ancient civilizations separated by thousands of years, we explore compelling evidence that challenges conventional wisdom about what might lurk below. Why did cultures from Ancient Egypt to Norse Vikings use nearly identical language to describe the Kraken's roar as "the heavens cracking open in the doom of a thousand worlds"? Coincidence seems increasingly unlikely.
The ocean represents humanity's last great frontier—a place of wonder, danger, and endless possibilities. Whether you're fascinated by marine biology, drawn to maritime folklore, or simply enjoy that delicious mixture of terror and amazement that comes from contemplating the unknown, this episode will leave you seeing the deep blue in an entirely new light. Subscribe now and join us as we continue exploring the mysteries that lurk just beneath the surface of our everyday world.
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A megalodon is. Take a great white shark and make it as big, if not bigger than, a fucking blue whale.
Speaker 2:And try to sleep at night. Try to sleep at night of a great white shark Bigger than a blue whale, bigger than a blue whale. In fact, imagine a shark large enough to bite a blue whale in half, so its bite radius would have to be able to take down a blue whale. I mean, just wrap your head around that fact alone, that's that's a big goddamn fish, yeah we're gonna, we're gonna need a bigger boat.
Speaker 1:You're gonna need a fucking battleship. Okay, bud, to get after one of those things.
Speaker 2:Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 1:Are you ready? Kids? All right, that's enough of that. Hey, angie, I got a real quick question for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What scares you, keeps you up at night, but also fascinates you beyond belief.
Speaker 2:The IRS.
Speaker 1:The IRS. I thought you said the. I don't know why. I thought you were going to go the IRA for a second. Either way, for me it's the ocean, the ocean, the water, water. You know where you gotta find nemo, and then you had to find dory, the movie the abyss, all that wet stuff, autogunga from phantom menace. The ocean, I love it, I'm obsessed with it. Um, and not to sound like that guy, to be completely, completely honest, it fucking terrifies me. Welcome back to the Black Curtain Club. Our episode today is going to be about the ocean in all of its mystical and wonders, and someone to kind of hold my hand, figuratively, metaphorically, quite literally, if I need to Angie, hey, how are you?
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm good. I'm good, I'm so excited over this topic.
Speaker 1:You have no idea. Good, because I'm going to have nightmares tonight.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean that's not good, but also I'm kind of here for it too.
Speaker 1:Me having nightmares Never mind Whatever, whatever For anyone who we've lost and now we've found. So I grew up in a small town that had not necessarily the ocean, but we had the beach that went to the ocean. Long Island sound. It's not technically the ocean you got to go all the way around Long Island Bastards To get to the actual ocean but it's still terrifying enough. Which means is like I'm pretty sure I was a fish in a past life, with my obsession with just the water and nautical stuff. Fishing, boating, all that kind of stuff um, still scares the shit out of me amazing, like the amazing mr limpet um, I don't know about that, but um do you know I mean spongebob.
Speaker 1:I watched spongebob when I was a kid do you know that movie, god you don't know that movie I probably know that movie. It's an old old movie it's.
Speaker 2:It's an old don knots movie where he turns into a fish.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's why, because it's Don Knotts and I was born in the 1900s, the late 1900s well, I was going to say that movie was from the 1900s yeah, I was going to say, technically all movies were from at least the 1900s. True?
Speaker 2:okay, sorry I sidetracked this, go ahead you're good.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, because we were off to just such a crackerjack start as we were either way. The water I love it and it scares me. That's, I guess that's what I'm getting at here. I have compiled a list of things that, uh, I guess interest me, because that's that's what interest, right? It's something that you, who isn't afraid of the unknown, but also you, want to learn more. So I feel that the word I will use for now on why the ocean interests me, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Tell me all the interesting things about the ocean, why it's scary. I want to know what gets your brain working. That's what I want to know. I want to know what fear is. I want to know what gets your brain working.
Speaker 1:That's what I want to know. I want to know what beer is, I want to know what gets my brain working too, and so do like a myriad of doctors, but I digress. I guess number one the fact that it takes up 75% of the planet. I don't know exactly how big. Do you know how big the planet is? That's not me being a facetious pain in the ass. I'm genuinely asking Do you know?
Speaker 2:No, I know it's big.
Speaker 1:It's big as shit. I know that. Yeah, and 75% of it is water, 75% of it is ocean. Whenever they say that 75% of the planet is water, 80% of the planet is water, 75% of 75 is ocean, so only five percent of it is like lakes and rivers and other shit that is into the ocean. 75 is ocean. We as humans have only with our own punk bitch ass eyes been able to see and can visually confirm with our own eyes. Five, 5% add another 15% and that's all we've ever discovered or mapped and explored using, like Sarnoff technology, deep diving technology, sacrificing billionaires and poorly built submersive devices.
Speaker 1:Rip 20% of 75%. Hey, math people out there looking at you, Rain man, what's the actual area? I don't know, but I know it's very, very small. Yeah, I think we've only discovered or explored less. We've discovered and explored more of space. We know more about space than we know about the ocean.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, I've heard that statistic before. That blows my mind, that blows your mind, that makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because space doesn't end, it's infinite and it's growing infinite. So how do we know more about nothing than we know about something that's on our actual planet? Do we actually not know that? Or are we just saying we don't know it and like we really know everything, like that's where, that's where the lizard people are, that's where the aliens are, that's all the fun stuff that's in the goddamn ocean I was gonna say that's, that's gonna drag us down to a lot of different conspiracies, because you know is it, is it, do we know?
Speaker 2:And we're just they're. They're not telling us because so much of the ocean is devoted to aliens or things that we're not supposed to know about. But go ahead.
Speaker 1:Exactly. No, I mean yeah, exactly. Which brings me actually to like reason number. Fuck it, we'll make it. Reason number two is the amount, amount of just just mysteries and weird stuff that's left unexplained. So just just shooting from the hip, here you have the bermuda triangle and bermuda triangles, I'll say, which is kind of funny, because like they just kind of named all of them bermuda triangles, even though it's bermuda is only like one area. I forget the other actual scientific name for it. But there's not just one mysterious triangular anomaly on planet.
Speaker 2:Earth.
Speaker 1:So each of them actually is, and the fact that they're all literally connected. So I forget the three points of the Bermuda Triangle, but the one that's actually on land. So it's the point that's on mainland. That is also the standpoint if you go into a different direction. That connects to another one, that connects to another one, that connects to another one, that literally goes around the earth. So they're all connected with the weird ley lines, if you will. So there's an insane amount of just I'm not using the c word all that much because, but yeah, we'll just go ahead and say it. So there's insane amounts of conspiracies, of what they are, of what they could be.
Speaker 2:Well, I was gonna say what do you call the c word? Because my c word was completely different than conspiracies.
Speaker 1:But go ahead, oh cunt yeah no I say that word a lot okay so do I, but well, no, because like you throw a conspiracy on and people just instantly think of that beautiful picture of me when we did our episode about conspiracies. Um, but conspiracies kind of they get. They get like a bad rep because like, oh, here we go, conspiracy theories, people, it's, it's just crazy. People talking nonsense when really that it's just someone's opinion that they feel is supported with facts or something, or something something's not adding up and they feel they have found an explanation for it.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure exactly. You know where conspiracy starts and science takes over. So, either way, you have the bermuda triangle. Triangles um, that's one of them ghost ships and the never-ending amount of them, sea monsters. Monsters, both real and non, that did exist, that still exist. The weird noises. We talked about this a little bit, but we had a little debrief Briefing. Debrief is afterwards, the little briefing before Just weird, freaking noises that happen out there. There's also been reports of just strange lights under the water and actual aliens off of the coast of Los angeles. I believe it is. I think there's. There's all sorts of wacky stories about catalina.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, this, yes, yes. Fucking catalina alien mixers, exactly fucking catalina wine mixer, alien style yeah, wine mixer with aliens in 80s billy joel cover bands.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, there's um just a side note there is since we're talking about catalina island in uaps there's a really great documentary um, and I found it on amazon prime, called a tear in the sky and it was um. It was an exploration off catalina Island where a lot of UFO activity happens, and you know it's been out for a while. So, spoiler alert, they actually filmed a fucking portal opening up and something coming out of it.
Speaker 2:That's nuts fucking portal opening up and something coming out of it that's not. It is. It is a fascinating, but yeah, catalina island, the ocean, things underneath the ocean, absolutely I'm trying to let you go, because this is this is getting my golden retriever energy up, which never happens because I'm a black cat but every now and then you get that one specific ear tickle.
Speaker 1:And apparently, yes, apparently, I'm scratching the belly just right, and your leg's starting to go.
Speaker 2:Exactly, go ahead, no no, no, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean and follow up to all those ones like dangers, everything about like how insanely dangerous it is. There's just the animals, there's the creatures. Creatures is it real or not? Stories, whatever, the freaking monsters like that one, so we'll just go ahead with that. Like sea monsters. Everybody knows the Kraken, as they rightfully should, because that is the most famous, most well-known hashtag Kraken intense focus, legendary, selfless. Look at you, randy, shout out whoop, whoop, um, but it is the most Hashtag. Kraken Intense Focus, legendary supplements. Look at you, randy, shout out Whoop, whoop, but it is the most Randy.
Speaker 2:That was for free, that was a free promo Randy, oh shit, anyhow.
Speaker 1:I think it is one of the oldest like sea monster stories was the kraken it's. I think it's a tie between the kraken and the leviathan, because the leviathan is brought up in the old testament in the yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, it was of it's a biblical monster yeah, I know that one and the kraken I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 1:But the bible came out after ancient greece and Mesopotamia and so on and so forth. So ancient Egypt, rome, mesopotamia and then Scandinavian texts, ancient Scandinavian texts all talk of the same exact creature and it's all described the exact same way. They just had a different name for it because it was just their language. Of what they called, and then I think the one that stuck the most was the one from norse mythology, because that was the only one that used um, actually, uh, that was able to be translated to anglo-saxon english, which then became english english. Uh, they called the half gufa, half gufa, half half gufa, half gufer.
Speaker 1:I don't know something like that one, but at that the original stories was that it was a giant, it was a giant turtle with tentacles and but same thing, the horrid breath it haunted the seas. It did the bidding of like a um, a, uh, like a, like a maritime demon entity, demonic entity, for whether it's cthulhu, davy jones, whichever um, whichever culture you want to, whichever cultural thread you want to pull on, whichever demonic entity ruled the sea, it was like their little attack dog, um, but they all but so. Some descriptions sea, it was like their little attack dog, but they all but so. Some descriptions of what it looked like were very similar, but what it did, how it acted, how it responded, its motives were always the same and some other things like the giant tentacles, the horrendous breath, and they all described the roar being the same exact thing as well to something like the heavens. What is it? The heavens cracking open in the doom of a thousand worlds, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Everyone every culture said almost that exact thing, word for word Heavens cracking open thousand worlds, doom, blah, blah, blah. Which is insane to me, because each of those civilizations were like a millennia apart from one another, and that the fact they almost, they almost, did the same thing, wild.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, we had it. And this is like the same thing with the dragon, you know, we, we had that conversation Like there are so many mythological monsters that all of these cultures, so many mythological monsters, that all of these cultures, you know that that, like you said, were, were thousands and thousands of years apart. Talk about the same thing. There has to be some truth to it, there has to be it's just.
Speaker 1:It's wild to me because, like it means they all saw the same thing, or the same things, or they experienced the same things, and they just they're. They're just telling you what they saw with their, with their dialect, with their language, with their, however it is, but the fact that they all were very different languages and very different expresses, but they all used essentially the same exact way to describe the noise that it made. And they're all exploring different waters. I mean you can make the argument that ancient Egypt and ancient Rome all sailed across the Mediterranean, even the Aegean, even parts of the Nile and so on, and so forth, but the parts of the Nile that were explained.
Speaker 1:So those two cultures came across. I forget which part of Adena, with Mark Antony and Cleopatra during the end of the Egyptian Empire and the Egyptian culture. I'm talking about ancient, I'm talking pre-pyramids.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:The pyramids were already ancient, were like ancient history, by the time the roman empire was founded, and so the fact like says there's like a thousand years in between these two cultures and they're describing the same freaking thing about this one monster yeah nuts. Then you go all the other side of europe to the scandinavians. They're saying the same fucking thing right insane, absolutely insane. Um, I can do an entire episode on just the kraken, which I plan on doing, by the way.
Speaker 2:So yes, little coming soon at some point or another.
Speaker 1:Um, so you had just them. Uh, I know you're. Uh, you're pride and joy, you're, uh, you're fun little earworm here for more belly scratches. Get your leg going, the megalalodons. Ah, yes, I say Megalodons because it's not like the Kraken. So the Kraken is depicted as like a colossal squid, but like even bigger. So there is the Kraken. So, yes, there are colossal squids, but there is one specific Kraken.
Speaker 2:There is.
Speaker 1:In my humble opinion, there is not the Megalodon, there's just Meggalodons. I think it is a species that still exists. For those you don't know, a megalodon is take great white shark and make it as big, if not bigger than, a fucking blue whale, and try to sleep at night try to sleep at night of a great white shark, blue whale bigger than a blue whale.
Speaker 2:Bigger than a blue whale, in fact. Imagine a shark large enough to bite a blue whale in half, so its bite radius would have to be able to take down a blue whale. I mean, just wrap your head around that fact alone that's.
Speaker 1:That's a big goddamn fish, yeah we're gonna, we're gonna need a bigger boat. You're gonna need a fucking battleship. Okay, bud, to get after one of those things well, it's god.
Speaker 2:No, we know that. We know that large sharks existed because we have teeth, you know, I mean you can, you can get these. You know teeth that are as big as two hands put together. I mean they're, they're massive teeth.
Speaker 1:So we know as a computer monitors freaking teeth on these things, right it's huge, that's big, but you will never convince me.
Speaker 2:With us only exploring, and liberally saying, 20% of the ocean, you cannot tell me that it doesn't still exist. They're there. Well, I mean, we have a. I think it's a Greenland shark, that is, it's the oldest shark, and if I can't remember how many, I want to say this shark is like been around for years, and I will always go back to the coelacanth. The coelacanth was something that was supposed to have been extinct. It was prehistoric fish, they thought it was gone extinct.
Speaker 2:They thought it was gone extinct and then damn if they didn't catch one off the coast of Madagascar, however many years ago. It's been a while, but you know, madagascar, madagascar, madagascar. So, yeah, yeah, the Megalodon, I will die on this hill. Megalodon, they exist, uh, they are out there and they are feeding on blue whales well they should, those pretentious bastards.
Speaker 1:No, I'm a giant fish, but not a fish. That's humpback, my bad yeah, dory, listen get your fucking whales. Right, get your whales, right, but yeah, yeah, absolutely. Anyone who saw the absolute cinematic masterpieces that were the Meg movies with Jason Statham. Those movies are so great. You can't tell me you're going to die in the hill, that the Megalodon is real. I will die in the hill. Both those movies are gold. They're so awesome. They're so awesome. You just need a ridiculous movie like that every now and then.
Speaker 2:And he blessed us with two. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember when we first saw it. Lauren and I watched those movies side note, right, so we it was.
Speaker 1:It was like a rainy day, wherever the hell every now and then we, you know, we do marathons like any normal functioning people, and so it's like, fuck, we haven't seen these movies. Who doesn't like big, big monster, big monster movie? You know, to quote the whole big monster. So we're watching the meg, right, like fuck, yeah, so all right, let's watch the meg too. Before we, before moving, started, I paused it.
Speaker 1:I was like, listen, when you do a sequel to a movie, this ridiculous, he goes which trope do you think they're going with? Because we talked about when you do a sequel of, when you do a big monster sequel like that, right, you do one of two things there's either a bigger version of the monster from the first one or there is more, and so she was like okay, so, yeah. So it was like okay. So in the first one, you know what the meg was. I don't remember how big this is like, let's just say a thousand feet. So okay. So the one in the first one was like a thousand feet long and the second one, by hollywood law, it needs to be a minimum of two thousand feet long or there has to be two like eleven hundred feet long ones, like they need to be slightly bigger. What did they do with the second one? They fucking gave us both. They gave us like four that were the size of.
Speaker 1:Montana. They were fucking huge. And on top of that they gave us dinosaurs and a giant squid. It was, I think it was. It wasn't the Kraken, but it was a gigantic, it was. It was just a gigantic octopus.
Speaker 1:Right, it was one of the most ridiculously awesome movies ever. But yes, that movie is. It is the way it is on purpose. It's supposed to be ridiculous like that one, but kind of like movies like that. They, they, they pull inspiration from actual um science theories and whatnot. I keep forgetting, right, but it's at the bottom of the marianas trench, where the jet, where, like that cloud was, where the meg, where the megs lived, all the monsters lived. That's, that's a real thing. We've discovered this giant crack at the bottom. It's not the Marianas Trench, it's the other trench, it's just as deep as the Marianas. But, like I said, we used our sonar technologies that we've gotten our unmanned submersible vehicles US, whatever the shit's right to about the top of that and they blast their little sonar things down, so we see how deep that trench is and the sonar doesn't go far enough to reach the bottom.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So literally, so like there's just this giant, so there's a giant hole in the bottom of the ocean that we don't even we can't see, because there is some type of a disturbance where, like, the light can't even get that far, even with the actual sonar lights, we can't fucking see what's down there, and there's no end to it. So you can't tell me that none of these things exist until we can explore all of that.
Speaker 1:So, that's an actual scientific theory is that there is some type of life or something exists down there. Yes, so and then? Yeah, then you get jason statham to do something crazy with a harpoon gun and it's awesome and you have a great movie. But there is actual scientific theories based in that one. Yeah, sea, sea monsters, man, yeah.
Speaker 2:Sea monsters, yeah, and that's I think, and that's kind of like I mean, even if you take and I don't know where you're going to go next or what?
Speaker 2:you have planned to talk about. But the thing that always strikes me is like, if you're okay a person, you take a six foot tall person and they're in the middle of the ocean. You know they can. From the surface down is only six feet. What is below you that you can't see in all directions, like that is such a scary thought of how much just depth is below you. You know it's like you will never touch the bottom. If you do, you're dead, you know it's like standing in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, One of my friends one of my friends explained it to me.
Speaker 1:He was like, think of it as, think of it as being in the middle of a field, but upside down, and I was like, huh, he was thinking about it. He goes like when you being in the middle of a field but upside down, and I was like, huh, he goes, think about it. He goes when you're out, exactly that one. He goes when you're in the middle of the ocean and you're just kind of floating there. It's just your head above the water right, and he goes you'll never touch the bottom, there's infinite nothingness below you. He goes yeah, think of it in the opposite. So you're standing on the ground right and then you look up to the sky, it goes yeah, there's, you know, there's the ozone, there's that one, because then there's space, there's. You'll never touch the top, you'll never see the top, because it just goes forever and ever, because it's the same thing. And I was like dude, why you gotta say that kind of shit?
Speaker 1:because oh man, why you gotta say shit like that man, why you gotta say shit well that man well as above, so below oh god, here we go. Yeah, it's just, it's insane, it's just. Oh god, it fascinates me. I love the water so god damn much, but it fucking terrifies me but, then other not supernatural and like other kind of evils, that this is also, this stuff is a billion percent true. Um, just the actual natural reoccurring bullshitty phenomena that happens so, like the pressure.
Speaker 1:I forget the actual conversion to it, but you know freaking pretty like a, like a, like a tin can exactly, I don't know, but freddie mercury and david bogart on something under pressure, yeah, going to the goddamn water under a lot of freaking pressure. It's like you know what's you know. We were just saying you know what's below you when you go there. You want to know what's not below you in some areas, fucking a person or like a body, because there's so much pressure it would literally crush you into nothing. You would disappear, you would cease to exist. Okay, yeah, we say you crush a can, you crush a beer can, or that's just the pressure you can do.
Speaker 1:And then there's those videos that I don't know why I'm so obsessed with them. There's some of my favorite videos in the world, like hydraulic presses, and then they just like crush the shit. Have you seen the ones where they put like the cans, like in the other, like there's really thick, like um, and they'll put like the stacks of whatever the fuck, like cds or whatever? The cds will just explode because there's nothing to keep them confined. Then there's the ones where they have like that big cylinder and they, you know, they'll put like, uh, like squishy balls or bouncy balls in, right you?
Speaker 2:see, yeah, yeah, yeah, crans, they just come shooting out of the sides.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen when they do that with like a? You ever seen the ones where they do it with like a solid object? They they've. I've seen ones where they take like a like a soda can, like a can of Coke, and then they crush it Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The pressure is so intense that it forces it liquefies the metal to come out the sides of the holes, so like it's pressing down so hard on that can that it is. You know, when you press something down, it generates heat because the molecules are getting so close, close one another chemistry, one-on-one kids and physics and pretty much all science right now. So the pressure so much, it just created so much heat. It liquefies the can and it spreads and comes shooting out the sides. Now if those sides were plugged up, it would just keep pushing pressure and pressure and pressure and pressure and pressure that it would literally dissolve into nothing. It would completely burn up and disintegrate. That's what happens to your fucking body in the ocean. It just keeps going, going, going, going and you just keep crumpling, crumple, crumple, crumple until you're nothing and then you literally are just gone from existence because you can't get any smaller, you just vanish.
Speaker 1:Terrifying well, terrifying well it's like the.
Speaker 2:The reenactments are like the, like the. It's like a digital rendering of what happened to the people in the sub, and like the one that fascinated me the most is it was talking about showing you the speed of your, your pain response. They imploded faster than the pain response, which means to say is that they were crushed into, liquefied into oblivion before they even felt before they felt it Exactly, which is kind of a relief because it means they didn't feel anything. Right.
Speaker 1:They went from something to nothing faster than the brain could comprehend. They were in pain.
Speaker 2:Yes To all of our beloved listeners.
Speaker 1:Google, google right now. How fast that is. That scares me even more. It's just how quick, how rapidly that is.
Speaker 2:And that's like that's the power of the ocean. That is scary as fuck.
Speaker 1:That's the power of Ponsol baby. I'm just picturing that lady like showing that one and you go. That's the power of pressure baby. She just got like a little video that you'd watch in like science class Just dying. Oh man, I mean that's the power of pressure baby. She just got like a little video that you'd watch like science classes just just dying.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I mean that's, it's just terrifying, it's absolutely terrifying, but so cool it is, it is, it is so cool, but yeah, because water, because water, oh my goodness oh yeah, and then the hydrothermal stacks, which is just like, essentially like holes, like in the cross and giant fucking bellows of black smoke.
Speaker 1:It looks like anything you've ever seen about, like pittsburgh or like london from like the 1800s ever watching like the, like a movie, or like nicholas nickleby or like oliver twist, like the giant smoke stacks yeah, it looks like that's pouring out of the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 1:Fun fact that smoke, the black smoke that's just pissing out of that fissure, will liquefy you in seconds, cause it is over 700 something degrees, except between 700 and 800 degrees is the middle of those giant smokestacks just pouring out into the ocean. Um, yeah, that's all fun and terrifying. Rogue waves, yep, asshole waves about the size, almost size, of a tsunami. Ever seen those awesome videos where it's like a ship or where they'll play like hoist the colors, with that dude like a really deep voice, you know, they'll just show up a ship, that's just goes almost like nose down and the water just like and they're, the cameraman actually like leans back and you see water coming over you. That's a rogue wave. They're so true. One of my friends served in the military and he had to. He was what's it called. He was, um, he was on, uh, he was on a ship. You know, hitched a ride with the navy yeah to one of his deployments.
Speaker 1:And yeah, rogue waves are absolutely a thing. There's out there and there's all sorts of like alarms that go off like brace for this, brace for that everyone. This lockdown, this locked on that, yeah, it can throw a fucking aircraft carrier like a bath toy oh yeah, google an aircraft carrier.
Speaker 2:Google an aircraft carrier Google, an aircraft carrier. That's so scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was on the George H. Look how big the George H W Bush aircraft carrier is. That thing was thrown like a fucking bat. It was hit like a bath toy. And displaced X amount of degrees, off course, because it got hit by a fucking rogue wave.
Speaker 2:Wow yeah.
Speaker 1:Lots of fun. Then I guess my little last bit here too is for all my destiny friends, if you pick up on this little joke, you want to know what's the fun about it. Ocean's haunted, it's haunted.
Speaker 1:There's ghosts, all sorts of evil, evil, spooky entities out there. Obviously, everybody knows the most beloved one, arguably the peak of cgi eat your heart out james cameron and the fucking titanic. Arguably the peak of cgi was when disney and jerry bruckheimer gave us davy jones. So there's some truths behind his story. So the story in the tale of Davy Jones, that's probably going to be another episode that I want to do too.
Speaker 1:Yes yeah, there's so many different depictions where Davy Jones was just an actual, so the actual story about he was just in love with the sea and he was in love with this woman, so that little bit about the Davy Jonesones with disney was true. Um, he chose that he was in love with a witch and chose that one. He was cursed and whatever that's like. The most factual quote-unquote story is that he was just a sailor who loved a witch, but he loved the sea more and he was cursed yeah and he didn't become whatever the hell.
Speaker 1:And davy Jones Locker. So that kind of fun stuff there's, I think there's besides the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, I think there's only one other account of Davy Jones actually being the captain of the Flying Dutchman, but other than that, the bulk of the stories of those two. They have nothing to do with one another. Davy Jones Locker is something else. And now the story of the, the story of the flying dutchman being the ghost that ferries the souls who have died at sea to the afterlife, is true. That one's true. It's just davy jones wasn't the captain of it.
Speaker 1:The flying dutchman is the ghost ferryman, almost like karan um you know, there's the souls to the afterlife and shit Supposed to be an omen for disaster, or like the Grim Reaper or Mothman, if you will. There's been plenty of accounts of seeing the Flying Dutchman in some type of terror. There was plenty of eyewitness reports. There was reports right before the Titanic went down that plenty of the people on board, including crew members, reported seeing a ghostly Dutch galleon tailing them.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:The Lithuania also had reports of a Dutch galleon, what you call it, off its starboard. That was where the Lithuanian was on the starboard side and then on the port side was where it was off the port stern, where they reported seeing it, and that's where it hit the iceberg. So it's all towards that area where there's a lot of reports of seeing it before some type of big nautical disaster happens. And then there's things like the Mary Celeste, the Octavius just so many many ghost stories and ghost ships that still haunt the seven seas.
Speaker 2:I love the concept of ghost ships.
Speaker 1:I also think the highly underrated early 2000s horror film Ghost Ship has the greatest fucking opening scene. The only other opening scene that rivals its iconicness and how fucking awesome it is is Blade. Blade has the greatest opening scene in any movie I've ever seen in my entire goddamn life. Nothing will ever beat that Nothing. Period, Do not at me, I will fucking fight you. No other movie, the only one that comes close is Period, do not at me, I will fucking fight you.
Speaker 2:No other movie the only one that comes close is Ghost Ship. It was so awesome. Yeah, that was. Oh, I really liked that movie. I feel like an underrated movie that a lot of people don't talk about.
Speaker 1:That was a good movie, it was scary, so underrated because it was right towards the turn of it out, any horror movie that came out between Scream and Saw just kind of fell to the wayside just kind of felt, because those two were so massively iconic and they fucking flipped the horror genre on their head. Anything in the middle that wasn't Scream just got completely lost. And then Saw came out and flipped everything on its head and then after that, if it wasn't Saw, no one gave a shit.
Speaker 2:I digress and we know that, the Flying Dutchman and Davy Jones we know all of that is true because they've all appeared on SpongeBob.
Speaker 1:That is also true, that is very true.
Speaker 2:Well, no, because the Whatcha Call it wasn't a ship.
Speaker 1:The actual ghost was the flying dutchman. He was the flying dutchman I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not flying dutchman yeah, and you know I I've seen it, I've seen it for my own eyes on spongebob, so it is absolutely real exactly in the first spongebob halloween episode was where it gave us the introduction to Davy Jones and it's Spongebob and a fucking Halloween episode.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, anywho, right. So now that we've talked about all the fun fancy freeways, that's totally safe and not terrifying about the ocean who wants to go to the beach?
Speaker 2:The beach is fine. I'm not going in the ocean. Well, with that, thank you for listening to another episode of the black curtain club. Again, if you are enjoying this, tell a friend, spread the word that we are here and we're not going anywhere. So give us a rating and a like, find us on social media and we're going to bring more weirdness next week. So that's it, bye.
Speaker 1:Drink up me hearties, Yo ho.
