The Black Curtain Club
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The Black Curtain Club
Cursed Chords & Phantom Harmonies
What happens when music crosses the line from entertainment into something more sinister? In this spine-tingling exploration of melody and mayhem, we unravel the dark legends behind songs that have transcended their notes to become objects of fear, fascination, and supernatural speculation.
From the alleged death scream captured on Ohio Players' "Love Roller Coaster" to backward messages supposedly hidden in Beatles and Led Zeppelin tracks, we examine the thin line between urban legend and genuine musical mystery. Even modern songs like Tiny Tim's "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" have developed dark reputations after their use in horror films, showing how musical urban legends continue to evolve in our digital age.
Whether you're a skeptic or believer, these stories tap into our primordial sense that music possesses power beyond entertainment – a force that can inspire, transform, and sometimes, perhaps, reach beyond the veil between worlds. Listen with the lights on, and discover why some melodies might be better left unplayed.
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The most notable case was in 2007, where a 29-year-old man was shot and killed in a bar while singing the song. Witnesses said the shooter complained the man was singing the song so badly and wouldn't stop. He had to stop him. So I guess the only way to stop him was to shoot him.
Speaker 2:Death, hey, he did it his way.
Speaker 1:Death, hey, he did it his way, I mean, you know no one ever to share. A quick disclaimer the views, opinions and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised. Some songs don't haunt you, they hunt you. They slip under your skin, curl around your bones and hum in your head long after the music stops. And some say they carry something darker misfortune, tragedy and even death. Are some songs more than music? Could they be omens? Tonight we're building a playlist of the damned. Tonight we're building a playlist of the damned. Welcome to the Black Curtain Club. And on this episode, kyle and I are going to talk about the songs that have been banned, feared and whispered about, songs that have sparked bar fights, cursed their singers and even whispered messages when played backward, as if the devil himself wrote a verse or two. So with that, hi, kyle, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:I can talk now. I am Jesus. Like when you told me the synopsis of this one, I was like oh, hell, yeah, that's, that sounds great, that sounds awesome. And then you just read that and I'm just like tell me all of the fucking everything right now. I wish you could see how, on the edge of my seat, I actually am. I look like one of those fucking goats in Peru, like those mountain goats, that just like chill. I'm like that on my seat right now. I'm good, how about you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm good. I know we're heading into spooky season, so I thought why not close out the month with something a little spooky, just to get us in the mood for the next two months of spooky?
Speaker 2:A little spooky. A little spooky. Your intro is literally hey, these songs have fucking killed people. A little spooky, yeah, killed people. A little spooky, yeah Jesus. Any Tim Burton movie is a little spooky, like even his fun cute kid ones. Those are a little spooky. This is downright terrifying.
Speaker 1:Proceed. Well, that's what I'm aiming for. So the first one that I'm going to talk about is probably the most infamous of all the songs that I'm going to talk about, and this is a song that came straight from like a haunted gramophone. This song isn't just sad, it's clinically end of the world sad. Imagine Spotify slapping a warning label on a song saying caution may cause existential crisis. This song is so steeped in despair it was blamed for a wave of suicides. A song that's less like a melody and more like a funeral dirge in disguise. This is the story of Gloomy Sunday. You ever heard of it?
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to say Bad Blood by Taylor Swift. This is the story of Gloomy Sunday. You ever heard of it?
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to say Bad Blood by Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2:Well, you know we don't need the Swifties coming after us. I fucking dare you to Jesus Bloomy Sunday Go.
Speaker 1:You don't understand that was so. It was like you just crawled into my head and actually said that that was so loud.
Speaker 2:It wasn't me, it was the evil song. I apologize.
Speaker 1:Right, it's okay.
Speaker 2:I'll do sign language for now. And how about that? Just listen to the going by the headphones listen like the sound. The wind wisps okay.
Speaker 1:So gloomy sunday is also called the hungarian suicide song. It was written in 1933 by Rezo Sires, a composer whose life isn't exactly a ray of sunshine. So legend says that this song was so unbearably depressing it drove listeners to end their own lives. Newspapers in the 1930s blamed dozens of suicides in Hungary on this one song, and people would leave like like lyrics in their notes. The media reported finding bodies with sheet music on them or the song would be playing on repeat. Some reports where people played the song and then jumped out of windows. So the original Hungarian lyrics are a little bit more woeful than the English translation version. In this version the singer mourns the death of a lover and expresses a desire to join them in death. And these are some of the lyrics. Sad Sunday with a hundred white flowers. I waited for you, my dear, with a prayer. The church bells are ringing for you. The dream chariot has come for you. Angels have no mercy for me. My eyes will open to see you once more. Then I will die with you. So then, jesus Right.
Speaker 1:Sam Lewis translated the song into English. He kept the dark tone, but this version ends kind of with a twist. It reveals the entire scene was just a dream. And, fun fact, the BBC even banned Billie Holiday's haunting version of this song during World War II, claiming it was too emotionally heavy for a war-weary audience.
Speaker 1:Some of the lyrics include Gloomy Sunday with shadows. I spend it all, my heart, and I have decided to end it all. Death is no dream, for in death I'm caressing you With the last breath of my soul. I'll be blessing you. Soon. There'll be candles and prayers that are said. Let them not weep. Let them know that I'm glad to go. Little white flower will never awaken you, not where the black coach of sorrow has taken you. And then this is the English ending is dreaming, I was only dreaming. I awake and I find you asleep in the deep of my heart. So that was how they ended it in the English translation Sheesh. So if that's not enough to tell you, serres himself took his own life in 1968 by jumping from the building. It's like this song absolutely swallowed him too.
Speaker 1:He once said that he once this is a direct quote from him and he said uh, I stand in the midst of this deadly success as an accused man, so he never got out from underneath the lore that you know his own song created. This song, though, has taken on a life of its own, even into our modern day, so there are a lot of creepy pastas and horror game fan communities that talk about created mods that were playing the song where it triggers ghost events or deadly glitches.
Speaker 1:For example, there's there's allegedly one for the Elder Scrolls.
Speaker 2:It's a mod.
Speaker 1:Allegedly it's a mod called Morrowind. It's a mod called Morrowind and that if you leave it playing on a loop at 3 am while in-game NPCs will die or go insane. According to the rumor, most NPCs are dead or non-functional. Survivors will stand silently at night saying watch the sky, a spider-like creature called the assassin will stalk you and standing in one spot will drain your health. And then there are some gloomy Sunday kind of creepypastas in Reddit forums such as Reddit no Sleep or Unsolved Mysteries, where the stories claim that people.
Speaker 1:Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Right, if I could only do that man's voice. You always knew you were in for a good time when you heard that man's voice.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So the stories claim that people hear whispering or weeping after playing the original vinyl record.
Speaker 1:People hear whispering or weeping after playing the original vinyl record, an unreleased version contains a hidden verse that was so disturbing it was destroyed and some say the song influences dreams and causes vivid nightmares. So this song almost has become treated like some kind of musical cursed object, kind of on par with the Annabelle doll or like the curse videotape from the ring. So none of this is really documented. It's deeply embedded in fan forums, youtube, horror essays, tiktok folklore, etc.
Speaker 1:But it's still a really interesting thought that this song could be like truly haunted. So if this hasn't killed the mood yet, how about a song that's literally killed people over karaoke night? You ready for this one?
Speaker 2:This has got to be Sweet, caroline, right, it's got to be Sweet.
Speaker 1:Caroline, it's got to be.
Speaker 2:Sweet, what's it called Uptown Girl?
Speaker 1:No, you have to go further back. It's an older song than either of those, so next I'm going to talk about the my Way murders or the karaoke killings.
Speaker 2:My Way, Like my Way.
Speaker 1:My Way, my Way, frank Sinatra's my way. Listen.
Speaker 2:Sinatra, my way it's haunted.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Please.
Speaker 1:So we all know Frank Sinatra's my way is iconic. It's a defiant anthem of living life on your own terms. But in the Philippines it's not just a song, it's practically a blood curse. So in the 1990s and up until 2010, at least a dozen murders have been linked to fights breaking out during karaoke performances of my Way. Most of them start the same way Somebody sings off key, somebody else takes offense and the next thing you know somebody's being carried out in a body bag. The phenomenon got so bad that many karaoke bars banned the song my Way entirely. The most notable case was in 2007, where a 29-year-old man was shot and killed in a bar while singing the song. Witnesses said the shooter complained the man was singing the song so badly and wouldn't stop. He had to stop him. So I guess the only way to stop him was to shoot him.
Speaker 2:The only way to stop him was death. Hey, he did it his way.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, no one ever thought, or this guy never thought, well, I could just literally walk up and take the microphone away from him or go unplug the sound system.
Speaker 2:But no, he had to shoot him or throw a bottle at him for crying out loud.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like physically assault him. No, he murdered him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, murdered him. Yeah, yeah, murdered. So I mean, when you think about it, a song was considered so dangerous for public safety that they had to shut it down. It's not just the lyrics, it's the attitude. So not sinatra's confidence can apparently get you killed if you don't nail that final. I did it my way, that final you know crescendo. You know, apparently, if you don't get that right, then you get killed in the Philippines.
Speaker 2:Listen, I'm probably going to find a lot more people in the Philippines on this one when it comes to this song, but I'm just going to go ahead and say it.
Speaker 1:Elvis's cover of that was eons better than Sinatra's Proceed so you know, I don't know what is scarier itself the song or the idea that?
Speaker 2:somebody might stab me over bad karaoke. I mean, it's not just that song. Someone will probably stab you here in the us over bad karaoke also. It's just you're gonna get, you're gonna catch strays in the philippines.
Speaker 1:Philippines apparently.
Speaker 2:Jesus.
Speaker 1:So the next thing that I want to take us to is something I know your little tail is going to start wagging at.
Speaker 2:I think People who get drawn and quartered if they start singing Fleetwood Mac wrong.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly so. This is all about the origins of the 27 Club. Do you know the 27 Club?
Speaker 2:I do you know the 27 members of the 27 Club?
Speaker 1:I have a list here.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the 27 Club is rock's strangest legend. Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse all dead at 27. Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse, all dead at 27.
Speaker 1:And if you look at their final songs or performances, some feel like all of those were like eerie premonitions. But let's talk about the legend that started the 27 Club and that's the story of Robert Johnson. So Johnson was a struggling musician in the Mississippi Delta in the 1930s. One night he allegedly went to a crossroads at midnight Allegedly Allegedly, the legend says Highway 49 and 61 at Clarksdale, mississippi. There he met a mysterious man who tuned his guitar and taught him how to play, and there was a pact made. This man, who some say was the devil, took his soul in exchange for immense talent. After this night, johnson returned to the show circuits with such astonishing skill that people would literally say he plays so good he must have sold his soul to the devil.
Speaker 1:In 1938, robert Johnson would pass away at the age of 27. Now some unconfirmed theories say that his whiskey was maybe poisoned by a jealous husband, or some reports say that he died of syphilis. But the more popular theory was that this was supernatural retribution. Basically, the devil came back for payment. Basically, the devil came back for payment. So some of the people that are in the 27 Club? Of course, robert Johnson 1938, by mysterious poisoning.
Speaker 1:We have Brian Jones in 1969. He was a Rolling Stones guitarist who drowned. Jimmy Hendrix, 1970, overdose and asphyxiation. Janis Joplin, 1970, heroin overdose. Jim Morrison, 1971, heart failure, uncertain cause. We have Kurt Cobain in 1994 of suicide. Amy Winehouse in 2011 with alcohol poisoning. So those are just some. I don't have the list of you know, all 27, but all of these people died at the age of 27 under very tragic or eerie circumstances, contributing to the legend of the 27 Club. Circumstances contributing to the legend of the 27 Club as, if you know, their extreme talent came at a supernatural price. Is there really a curse around age 27,? Or is it just that some artists burn too bright, too fast and their music is a mirror of that collapse? Either way, I think the final notes that they leave behind feel like echoes of something they sense coming. So what do you think about the 27 Club?
Speaker 2:I'm so fucking glad you asked Listen, if like there's one, I'll even give you three. I'll give you three If you have three people, three musicians like you said that honestly, all of them when they went at 27, they had the world, as they say, by the short and curlies. I'll give you three years apart from another. But the fact that there are so many of them and that all the lines they were 27 highlighted their career seems to be just kind of yeah, well, that's what happened to. How many were what? Cobain was the only one that wasn't a drug overdose.
Speaker 2:Right Was a drug or an alcohol overdose. Everyone else it was drug or an alcohol overdose, which can be simply chalked up to accidental. They didn't know what they were doing. The dismantled. That shit happens all the time. I can give you that one. But there's so many that there's there the similarities between all of them and, if I'm not mistaken, don't they all coincide with the white lighter as well? Is it all of them or some of them? Because I want to say it was Hendrix, cobain, winehouse and Joplin. I want to say those four were all found. Their bodies all had a white lighter I don't know if it was specific to the same in like the same pocket, also before them, had a white like bick lighter on them when they passed. There's a bunch of musicians that on their person, in their pockets, there was a white big lighter. But the fact that there's so many that are just so similar, it's dude. There's something there. There's something there and it's so fucking weird. It's just, it's too weird for it to just be a coincidence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think you know I mean you know a lot of people. When they talk about the 27 Club, there's always, like these, certain names that get brought up. What I was curious about was where did it start, and it all started with Robert Johnson about was where did it start and it all started with robert johnson? Well, um, to continue, um, have you ever heard the song love roller coaster by the funk band ohio players?
Speaker 2:I know the song Rollercoaster of Love.
Speaker 1:So this song was recorded in 1975.
Speaker 1:And shortly after the song's release, rumors began to spread that a real woman's scream is heard in the background of the track, and this was actually a recording of her being murdered, captured live, during the song's production. That's terrifying, right? So this myth claims that the scream is real, unedited, and that the woman died during the session. And I will tell you when I was researching this, I called up that you know there's a specific. So the scream allegedly occurs at two minutes and 30 seconds into the track and what you hear is a sudden, high-pitched female scream, and it stands out. It's not stylized, it's not musical. It does sound like more like a genuine cry of terror.
Speaker 1:And what makes people uneasy is it doesn't sound performed in the way that the rest of the song um, it that you, that you hear. So you know, I, I definitely, and I encourage everyone to pull up that song, pull it up on spotify or whatever you use, and um, listen to it. Two minutes and 30 seconds, there is a scream that you can hear that does not sound like it belongs in the rest of the song. Um, there are some interesting theories in urban legends. Who was the woman and what was the scream about?
Speaker 1:so you, want to hear a couple of those absolutely so there is the playboy model story.
Speaker 1:So allegedly the scream came from esther, corday or cordette, I'm not sure how you say your last name. So she was a Playboy model that was featured, actually, on the album cover. So the story goes that she was burned during the photo shoot due to honey being put on her skin. So if you see the album cover she's standing there with honey dripping like into I think it's like dripping into her mouth or on her, her, her head or skin or something.
Speaker 1:Um, so they say that she was burned due to the honey on her skin and that she was actually stung multiple times by bees and insects and that she was actually in utter agony from all of it and stormed into the studio during the recording, screaming in pain, not necessarily murdered, but some people say that is what the scream came from. We know that she wasn't murdered because she is alive and well today.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The other theory is that there was a stabbing occurred during the recording. So apparently, according to this myth is that a woman was supposedly being stabbed to death in the studio hallway and her screen was caught on the microphone. Now there's no record or evidence of a murder at or near the studio.
Speaker 1:And the band, of course, and the producers have all denied these claims. They said that it was just a raw, strange vocal effect meant to heighten the funk intensity. But here's why people say that it feels haunted, because the timing and tone of the scream doesn't match the rest of the track. The mystery was never fully explained at the time, which allowed this myth to grow. Combined with the eerie photoshoot story and the rise of true crime and pop culture, the song kind of became linked with this haunted aura. So what do you think about that?
Speaker 2:I think that I'm going to sleep with the lights on tonight. Get out of here with that shit, man get out of here with that shit man.
Speaker 1:So I have one last thing that I want to talk about, uh, here at the end, and that's songs with back mask messages. So probably two of the most famous examples of back mask haunted songs are led zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven and the Beatles' Revolution 9.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So people say that if you play Stairway to Heaven backward you hear a satanic prayer. My thought is, if you listen to any song played backwards, it sounds like you're listening to a demon trying to gargle Listerine. But that's just me. Um, but that's just me. But the Beatles, the Beatles one, it has a little bit more teeth to the legend. Um, and that's the one I particularly want to talk about.
Speaker 1:So in the late 1960s a bizarre rumor started that Paul McCartney had died in a car crash in 1966 and was secretly replaced by a lookalike named William Campbell. Fans believe the Beatles left clues hidden in their lyrics, album covers and kind of more creepily backmask audio. So again, these are messages hidden, so you hear them only when you play the song in reverse. In one of their recordings and this was more of like an Ovid guard kind of song that they did called Revolution 9, the infamous Paul is dead, and there's also a repeated spoken phrase, number nine, number nine. He did spoken phrase, number nine, number nine. Fans also claim that if you play this part backwards it sounds like turn me on dead man. So yeah, yeah, so kind of. What gives that back mass? You know Paul is dead and then again turn me on dead man, some teeth and the whole. Paul is dead and was replaced.
Speaker 1:There were some other songs that kind of, with lyrics that lend to this mystery, with lyrics that lend to this mystery. So on this song I'm so Tired, which was on the White album, at the end John mumbles something that when reversed, some fans hear as Paul is dead, man, miss him, miss him, miss him, strawberry Fields Forever. At the end, john lennon allegedly says I buried paul. Now john lennon would later, you know, because they knew all of these claims, he claimed he actually said cranberry sauce. I don't know. I buried paul cranberry sauce. I don't think they.
Speaker 2:I mean I guess you have to deal with their accents, with their accents too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd have to hear it, maybe in that English accent.
Speaker 2:But you know? Yeah, I could see it.
Speaker 1:And then A Day in the Life contains the line he blew his mind out in a car. So this was interpreted as a reference to Paul's supposed fatal car crash. The thing that gives, I think, this one some teeth is that they never really fully explained or explicitly denied the rumors, especially when it gained traction, when it was kind of at its height. They instead kind of sat back and let this mystery grow. Now, was that, you know? Was that their plan? Just let it grow? This is just giving us more exposure. You know it's something for the fans. Or did they stay silent and kind of like laugh it off? Because it's true?
Speaker 2:I don't know yeah, I don't know if I'm being completely honest, I feel the one that has more behind it would probably be the ones with zeppelin, just because jimmy page was known, is known to be like massively obsessed with, like occults, and I mean alistair crowley, number one.
Speaker 2:He fucking idolizes that man, or idolize that man, and jimmy page, just like a jimmy page is like a weird dude insanely talented, obviously, but just like a weird dude and so like, if there's any type of like weird satanic, whatever the hell kind of stuff anything out of if you said it's from a zeppelin song, I'm going to believe the hell out of you, just because I know Jimmy Page is just like a weird creepy dude.
Speaker 1:Well, I wanted to go through just some very quick honorable mentions. There is a song called the Devil's Trill Sonata by Giuseppe Tartini, and this legend was that Tartini supposedly dreamed that the devil played his violin sonata for him, and when he woke up he tried to recreate this music that could only manage to pale imitation. It's said that this song is so complex and otherworldly that it's cursed for violinists who attempt to master it.
Speaker 2:Then we have Enter Sandman by Metallica, so it's not thought to be particularly cursed, but this song is associated again with a lot of nightmares, sleep paralysis uh fans say that it has triggered intense dreams or night terrors when played before bed there probably isn't any metallica song before you go to bed, and it's gonna be fucked up, dude.
Speaker 1:So there's a song called the Banshee by Henry Cowell and it's an avant-garde piano piece designed to sound like a banshee's wail and people say that it causes extreme discomfort and unease and it just makes them feel kind of very unsettled and like creepy did that song, the banshee by henry cowell, c-o-w-e-l-l henry cowell, are you sure it wasn't anything by yoko ono?
Speaker 2:oh, lord that creepy unsettling something yeah, creepy and unsettling, yeah, absolutely if you ever need a good laugh at that woman's expense, you look up when they played, you see when, when I know what you're gonna say and chuck berry. You just just look at them, because if she just comes out, she just starts. Look at chuck berry's face.
Speaker 1:He's like this fucking bitch oh god, it's some of the best it's some of the best live performances.
Speaker 2:I think the only other live performance that rivals that we've talked about it before is Prince's solo. During whatever friggin award show was that, prince came out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, whatever Anyhow. Yeah, just a couple more. We have Black Angel's Death Song by the Velvet Underground. So, this was inspired by Lou Reed's experiences with the occult and his fascination with dark forces. It's considered cursed by fans because of its disturbing sounds and tone. We have Kimberly by the Eurythmics. It's said to have a hidden message that causes nightmares if you listen to it. On certain days, on certain days.
Speaker 2:Yeah to it on certain days, on certain days, yeah, just on certain days, like if you listen to the third Wednesday of every month, you're fucked bud. Any other Wednesday you're fine, but not the third.
Speaker 1:So another one that is by the Velvet Underground is Heroin, and it's tied to drug culture and stories of addiction-related deaths.
Speaker 2:No, the song literally named after one of the deadliest drugs known to man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, imagine that we have the Black Album by Prince. Speaking of Prince.
Speaker 1:So this was pulled from the shelves shortly after its release because it was rumored to have dark hidden messages and meanings. Yeah, and then a little bit more modern, we have Murder Song 54321 by Aurora, and so this is a kind of a more modern example of a haunting song telling the story of a murder. Um, and then one last song that I want to mention, because I feel like we have to mention it because it's right now so ingrained in pop culture and, uh, it's, it's shaping up to be more of like we're watching an urban legend being formed, and that's the song tiptoe through the tulips by tiny there it is, there it is.
Speaker 1:So this I was waiting for it yeah, this song was used again in horror film series such as insidious, and it's just generally become synonymous with creepy and cursed. So you know. The question is that I have is again. I feel like you know, with this song, we are watching an urban legend being formed because it's now so associated with the creepy and the occult. In 20, 30, 50 years from now, is somebody going to be doing a podcast episode about cursed songs and then they're going to talk about this song as if this was really a cursed song.
Speaker 2:I mean, the chances of it happening are pretty low but they ain't zero right. I I do, I, I definitely think it's. I think it would be funny to see that one, because I really feel like, uh, really, just because I like no one knew what that song was, that yeah, that song had a history and print, any of that one. But like that song, tiny tim himself, a lot of stuff that like had kind of you know, has has been relatively lost to history, except for those couple of episodes of spongebob, actually, where they have a couple of tiny tim songs in it. Um, I think it's just, I really think it was just whoever it was, it was in Insidious right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was Insidious yeah.
Speaker 2:I think the person who chose that, who did the scoring and the music for that one, was just a genius when it came to how do you make something scary and terrifying even more, you add music to it. How do you make it even more? When it's something really evil and dark and just spooky, supernatural, whatever it is, what do you do? You go the exact opposite. Something that's very light-hearted, something that is catchy. You know it's literally tiptoe through, right. It's about like literally just like skipping through the fucking, like meadows and also the kind of fun shit, like the scene frolicking yeah, so it's all frolicking, like it's one of the most like silliest kind of things and feelings where I almost can. It's, I almost visualize like an attack of the clones. We're on naboo and there's that open field where anakin goes to ride that thing and they thought it's just and they're rolling around like teenagers in the meadows. It's literally that, but like it's a demon like eating and killing and all sorts of horrible things. So if you want to make something absolutely terrifying, you take a really happy, cute song and something you just polar opposites to one another. So I think it was just done because someone wanted to just like capitalize on perfect placing of something and I think it's just getting associated because everyone just just thinks of that and and thinks of that movie. And I know it's, I know it's a black or white kind of movie. People either love it or they hated it. I thought it was a very well done movie and it was pretty fucking scary. So I think it's what it is. Is that people just, oh man, it's like really scary and cursed and evil, and there's just that freaking. There's just that song. It just brings that thought. But I think it's what it is. I think people just associate it because of that movie and so, if I'm going to be honest, it's just one more, you know it's, I put it the same way. I associate we Armstrong's what a Wonderful World with just like kind of like irony, like sadness and despair, like there's all the good, you know, there is all the good things. There is a wonderful world, friends shaking hands, saying how do you do? But then there's also because whenever that song is used in movies, I think of two without batting an eye.
Speaker 2:The second one I think of is the movie oddly enough, madagascar, because they play that song when, when, what's it called? When? The uh, the zebra, the hippo and the giraffe. You know they're in the wild of madagascar and they're learning that, like that, the wild it's. It's kind of a silly connection to make right now, but it's. But honestly, using that song in this way is is fucking genius. So they're playing that song of what a wonderful world and the sky is blue and there's people going by and blah, blah, blah. That shit, right, um, but they're seeing the horrors of what the wild is like. There's a little bird that lands, you know, there's a little bird that's almost getting stepped on. So they've heard and they save it, they put in the water.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's saved and it gets eaten by a fucking crocodile and like just just, you know, just darwinism, just survival of the fittest, just the wild they see it and there's all that. There's that despair, but there's that lovely song playing. But my brain immediately whenever I hear that song, my brain immediately goes to the movie good morning vietnam. Instantly, because he plays that song and it's just like. It's like a feel-good part of the movie, whatever. But oh, we're playing this one for the guys out. I forgot what group this he plays it and then they just show. There's actually a lot of scenes that that's actual footage from vietnam of like napalm air strikes and like just the, just the war in vietnam.
Speaker 1:I don't need to go into details.
Speaker 2:Everyone knows I'm talking about, but they're showing bits of like the war in vietnam as they're playing that song. So maybe 20, 30, 40, whatever years, they're going to say that that song could potentially be related to evil and despair and however it goes, or that it's really. It's really singing that you know in from an ironic standpoint that yeah, the world is wonderful, it's fucking evil and horrible and there's nothing you can do about it. What a wonderful world. You know what I mean right, right yep I love spooky shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love spooky shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love spooky shit too. It's the best. It's the best man, the best. So that does it for another episode of the Black Curtain Club. Thank you so much for listening. Sound off in the comments or drop us a line. What do you think? What do you think about haunted songs and do you think there's any truth to? Paul is dead. The best thing that you can do for us is tell your friends that you found a really cool podcast that you love listening to. Also, any kind of ratings that you can give us will help us out tremendously. So stay weird, stay wild and join us for next week to see what we're going to be talking about. Bye, say bye, kyle good night, vietnam you.
