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Listen or Die: The Saw Horror Legacy
"Listen or skip. Make your choice." That iconic line perfectly captures the spirit of our deep dive into the Saw franchise with special guest Loren, who shares our unexpected love for these twisted tales of morality and survival.
What makes a low-budget horror film transcend its limitations to become a cultural phenomenon? The original Saw, shot in just 10 days for a mere $1 million, revolutionized horror by focusing on psychological terror and twisted moral dilemmas rather than simple slasher thrills. Together, we unpack how this scrappy independent film grew into a franchise that forever changed the landscape of horror cinema.
The conversation takes us through the most memorable (and stomach-turning) traps from across the franchise. From the iconic bathroom scene in the original to the needle pit, the pig carcass trap, and the mechanical rack, we dissect what makes these scenarios so haunting.
Whether you're a longtime fan of the franchise or curious about its cultural impact, this episode offers both nostalgic reminiscence and critical analysis of films that dared to ask: how far would you go to stay alive? Subscribe now and join our conversation about the movies that made us simultaneously cringe, think, and come back for more.
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Hello listeners. We may not know you personally, but you know us kinda. I want to play a game. You spend countless hours day after day with the mundanes of life no joy, no laughter, no podcasts. Before you is roughly 30 to 40 minutes of three dumbasses talking about a beloved film franchise that had all the cards stacked against it and yet went on to become an absolute icon. Listen or skip make your choice.
Speaker 3:Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 1:Welcome to another episode of the Black Carton Club podcast. That's what this is. Anyhow, today I have the other hostess with some of the mostess but not like a cream-filled cupcake, angie and joining us tonight is actually a near and dear, very special guest. My dog, stela, is sitting next to me, but that's not who we're talking about. My beloved Lauren. Ladies, how are you tonight?
Speaker 3:Pretty good Lauren, I definitely want to welcome you to the Black Curtain Club. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:I love how we pitched all sorts of other or at least I pitched like other topics. Maybe you'd want to talk about this. Maybe you want to talk about that. What does she wait for? No, the saw movies. You know nothing says bonding like a loving couple, like I can't even think of a funny joke how to describe them. Everyone knows the saw movies and if you don't this, this you're going to learn today.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm assuming, because we've talked a little bit about them in past episodes and you know about these movies. You've seen the movies, you're ready for them.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, love the movies. Absolutely obsessed with them, yep.
Speaker 1:Aren't you? Just so I'll give a little bit of a tidbit of why I find it kind of fitting that Lauren is joining us tonight. I don't know about all y'alls, but spooky season for me starts September 1st Always starts that so we'll decorate for Halloween and it goes into full-blown overdrive Spooky is the year round, but it extra starts on September 1st into full-blown overdrive spookies the year round, but it extra starts on september 1st. We have a lovely tradition where we put on the saw movies and we decorate. So I guess that's just kind of. It's just, it's perfect.
Speaker 1:We know they're not the best movies, they're not the best horror movies, but they hold a very special place in both of our hearts. Whether we have to cut them out or not, to, you know, get away in a minute or less, that's completely out of interpretation. But still, I've always always loved these movies. I remember when we were first dating I kind of said something about them or made like an obscure reference and she was like, oh yeah, because of that I was just like wait a minute, what? So it was like the weird thing that like she was like one of the first weird things I really liked. I knew she liked and I was like nice. So then it just kind of went from there and it was kind of great so before we get really cheesy.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say something really cheesy.
Speaker 1:Please.
Speaker 3:The couple, the couple who slays together stays together.
Speaker 1:And with that, thanks for listening today. Everyone, Make sure you check us on all platforms.
Speaker 2:That was pretty good yeah before we get too into this one.
Speaker 1:Lauren, you care to tell angie and our listeners a little bit about you, because I think I know a thing am a I don't know mom of two and a dog, um, chef, chef by heart.
Speaker 2:And degree, college degree, um, and you know, just trying to survive like we all are, like we all are, and the Saw movies are, like my guilty pleasure movies. So this is definitely a good spot to be tonight. But I feel like a lot of people don't really care about these movies because, at least the first few, because of, like you know, like you said, they're not like good, but they're good like good.
Speaker 1:But they're good. Hey, hey, you throw some respect on that first one, though. You throw some respect on the first one, and with that that's a perfect tie-in to starting the first one just off and running. The first time I saw it, I watched it. My older brother and I. We went and we saw this in the movie theaters.
Speaker 1:He was just, I want to say he was just old enough to sneak me into R-rated movies. It was the very first rated R movie I saw in the movie theater and I was definitely way too young to have seen it. And we were hanging out at the mall or something like that one, and that's where the movie was. And so he just like got the ticket and just like snuck me into the movie or whatever. I remember just like watching it because we saw the promos for it and we're just like what, the dudes are going to cut their feet off. Fuck, yeah, hey, that guy from other than the movie who cares Um? And then we just, I just and to the people who don't know, kind of the synopsis of this movie, you got the guy from Princess Bride and some other schmuck.
Speaker 1:They wake up in this dirty-ass bathroom, they find out that they're changed to the walls and there's a dead guy in the middle of the floor and then just throughout as the movie develops, you learn so much more that there's more connection between the two of them and the little tape recorder. And there's some psycho doing all this other kind of crazy crap out there, making people torture and dismember themselves just to teach them a lesson that, hey, you know what life could be so much worse.
Speaker 1:Stop being such a piece of shit, which like you know we, we all have our moments where, you know, maybe we get a little big for our britches, we think our life is the absolute worst because we spilled our coffee or we're stuck in traffic. Meanwhile, the main baddie throughout these movies his wife, had a miscarriage. They had such difficulty trying to conceive a child. He's then later diagnosed with cancer. He tries to kill himself and he just can't do it. So in the meanwhile, people are out there thinking their lives are so terrible because their mom yelled at them. So he goes a little crazy and he starts teaching these people a lesson.
Speaker 3:He's very against first world problems.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Good message. Maybe the wrong way to go about it, but good message.
Speaker 1:Great idea. It just needs to work. My man, he's got the right idea, he's got. He's a little confused, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like needs better execution.
Speaker 3:Oh pun intended a wholesome message wrapped in uh, you know, blood and guts. That's basically what these movies are rusty barbed wire yeah, and rusty barbed wire, yeah.
Speaker 1:But the first one, you just.
Speaker 2:Also. Wait, wait, go back just a second. I wouldn't just call it a miscarriage, though, to have him go off the rails. For the record, that's a pretty traumatic happening.
Speaker 1:Fair enough, okay, yeah, all right, it wasn't just a miscarriage.
Speaker 2:It was more like an attack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a bit of a borderline attack. All right, fine, that's in a later movie, kind of an accident, I guess, but still. Yeah, in one of the later movies you find out that she Actually his wife was opening up, I think it was a methadone clinic right or like a.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a methadone clinic, right or?
Speaker 1:like a yeah, I'm sorry and I'm so, yeah, so she's trying to better, because she's a fucking sweetheart. She's trying to do better the world and help these people who have these problems on and so forth. And um, one night, as she's closing up, one of their patients comes back in because like he left something and he like kind of forces his way in, whether to rob them or whatever, and like the the door handle jams into her. Yeah, either way, he goes a little off the rail. He goes a little off the rails, understandably so. But I digress.
Speaker 1:Snap back to the first one, the uh, just, you know as a as but a wee lad watching the movie, you're just, you're just kind of taken back by the movie and experience it because it's oh yeah, there's, there's, there's blood and there's. It's a scary movie and there's people you know and there's danny glover running around like a psychopath also. It's fantastic and you just you like it for what it is at the surface. You don't really see too much deep into it. I will say this one spoiler alert the movie's been out forever but you haven't seen it yet. Your own fucking problem. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1:If there's one specific thing about this it's a core memory for me and my brother, is that at the whole movie you're trying to figure out who the killer is, who Jigsaw is, who's doing this, who's doing that, what's's going on, and everything is pointing towards this other guy who was the janitor at the hospital that he works at. So you think it's that guy. Like holy shit, it's the fuck. Oh, my god, and it. They played it out so well and then that guy ends up dead. You search, you go search in his pockets. He's got a tape recorder on him. If you got a tape recorder on you.
Speaker 1:It means that you're another it's that you're another cog in the machine, you're another piece in the jigsaw puzzle. And when the big plot twist, the big crescendo of the movie coming together, the ending when the dead guy in the middle of the room stands up and reveals that he's the fucking killer, yeah, that no pun intended blew both of our fucking minds. I just remember me, my older brother. Our jaws were literally on the floor like, oh, fucking, what, like it was. We loved the movie, like from the get-go, absolutely loved the movie. And then, you know, as years go on and I become more and more like obsessed with movies and like little fun, little tidbits, something that made me love the movie even more was it was made with only like the first one was made with only like a million dollars yep which yeah yeah, that's insane only a million dollars.
Speaker 1:That's funny, but think about everything you have to pay for for a fucking movie and that's what's all a part of the budget. One million dollars and they made a whole feature-length movie that was released in theaters. That is considered insanely. I think the average movie is made with like $20 million. Now, like an average low budget.
Speaker 1:Just shit it. You know, throw the shit against the wall, see what sticks. It's like $20 million. Now An average low budget. Just throw the shit against the wall, see what sticks. It's like $20 million. They made it with $1 million and they filmed it in 10 days.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to say Danny Glover. I read this. He recorded all of his parts in two days and he didn't have time to rehearse. He was that much of a professional. Hats off to danny glover. Amazing actor, two days, never missed, never messed up on a take.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's, that's true talent, right there yeah, just, oh, my god, like and just, it's so much, I think it's. I'm pretty sure it still holds the record to this day that it is not just horror movie but it is the most successful um, uh, what's the like? Like the percentage of profit of what it took.
Speaker 3:I think it still holds the record yeah, I think it took a million to make. It made like a hundred million yeah, like it's.
Speaker 1:It just didn't run in the theaters alone, just the theaters alone. It made a hundred million dollars. That's not you know yeah you know buying and this, that and the other thing, all the other shit that comes along with it all and this was supposed to be like a side project.
Speaker 3:it was supposed to be just like a little like a short or something. It wasn't even supposed to be like a side project. It was supposed to be just like a little like a short or something. It wasn't even supposed to be what it was. And then it just kind of took off, and I think we touched on this before it totally changed the horror genre for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it gave something. It brought some type of a new life to it, if you will Like. Yeah, there was your slasher flicks and your paranormal flicks and all that kind of fun stuff. Just to kind of piggyback off of what Lauren said he's got the right idea to teach people the lessons, just not necessarily the best way you can and should teach the lessons you know. So you want to talk about someone who is like on the line of he a good.
Speaker 3:No, he's not a good guy, like we know he's not a good guy, he he has misplaced morals.
Speaker 2:There you go, there you go I would say at the beginning I wouldn't call him a bad guy, but after the continuation for so long maybe it kind of goes into yeah, what's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's the thing? Yeah, what's the thing. The uh. Only once shame on you. Fool me twice.
Speaker 1:We're not best friends anymore, or whatever it is yeah, I think his downfall was, though, he let amanda run amok longer than he should have exactly he became very I think that's when it was when he started like creating the you know, the cult, if you would like, his cult and his followers and the brainwashing. That's where everything got really. That's where he loses any credibility in any type of a defense that he's doing it for the greater good, because now he's just like he can't keep these people in check. Anyhow, I think I'm gonna switch gears a little bit because, like I mean, like I said, there's fucking 10 movies. I'm not giving the synopsis of every movie, it's just.
Speaker 1:The budget got bigger each time and the traps got more and more intense and they got more and more interweaved. So I guess I'll just we'll just have the fun little conversations now. So, out of the ones you can recall, what do you think are like? Like the, just the gnarliest trap, whether it's the most memorable, or just like you can't think of anything worse of like it actually happening to you. So we'll go first. So, uh, lauren, you're our guest, you go first.
Speaker 2:Oh boy um, the two I always think of that come like. First come to mind when I think of these movies is the I think it was the second one the house, that whole yeah them trying to get out of the house and the one where it's like the five people and they find out at the end they're supposed to work together um, yeah, yeah with the uh blood at the last one, or they had like just the yeah what's called table saws yeah I don't know if those are not really like the gnarliest, but for some those are the only ones I always think so just just the whole house.
Speaker 2:Literally everything about the house is just I mean I, yeah, I think it's because it's like the the point of it, like it wasn't just like for one person to get out or whatever, like how most of them are, it's like a whole fair enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, that's just like yeah, because they were pumping. Yeah, they were pumping gas into the house anyway. So like you're slowly dying from the poison.
Speaker 2:Also, like right, that's pretty rough got like the maze aspect of it.
Speaker 3:It's crazy yeah, and that had the needle pit in it too oh god, there it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was gonna keep my mouth shut, but yeah, the needle pit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think, for me the one that makes me gag I get like physically ill was, I think, the third one, with the attorney who's or no, he was a judge tied up in the bottom of the pit, the pigs.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That makes me want to vomit.
Speaker 1:I could I can stand like the things going in the eyes, or you know, like all of the you know people being sawed into but that, oh, like the rotting pigs in there like oh, that's, that's what made it so much worse, like it sounds fucked up, but it's one thing if it was like a regular butcher shop and those were, quote unquote fresh pigs to be slaughtered you know what I mean yeah, they were rotting, there was maggots. That is one thing about these movies.
Speaker 1:I, I, I envy their movies and not being a part because, like, the building just looks dirty, like the bathroom, just like they go back to that same bathroom from the first one and like three different movies and the bodies are still fucking. In the second one, adam's body is still in there and then, and then what is it? Then it's, uh, I think, something they need. Then they go back to that same bathroom in like the fifth one and same thing, I think. I think the corpses are still there.
Speaker 2:I fucking see like the foot skeleton or something.
Speaker 1:Still the foot is still there by like the fourth movie and so so we're talking years of decomposition just to walk in there, you know, yeah you need a tetanus shot just to go to listen. You're wiping your feet to leave that building. You're supposed to wipe your feet and then come into a house. You're wiping your feet to go back to outside after leaving that fucking room.
Speaker 3:It's just listen it's with the pit, with the pig pit, like, oh yeah, it looks it like they did so good with that special effects, like because, whatever, whatever that was, it looks like it. It looks like rotten water coming in, but it's also slimy oh yeah, it has, I don't oh guy we're just talking about, like he's close my eyes and I see it.
Speaker 3:I see it right now and I'm gonna make myself good and he's like laying there and you see, this stuff splash and you know, like I just know like that is going into his mouth, like he's tasting it, smelling it in his eyes. It's in every and his eyes, it's in every orifices in his body.
Speaker 1:It's just all over him. Like honestly, even if he lived through that one, I would have just offed myself upon leaving that because, like you're not the same, there's no amount of drugs or therapy that can fix that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Holy hell.
Speaker 1:It's just so, yeah, holy hell. It's just so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I'm sure we'll get to this. But I had the biggest problems with the third one, with what I felt were I don't know if it was necessarily plot holes, but I thought there were things that that guy could have done to save all those people and he just didn't do them.
Speaker 2:And it was kind of silly.
Speaker 1:That's a bit that they talk a little bit about that. That's what's funny about these movies is that every single time they didn't. So it's not like Marvel. We're like oh, oh, you made one good movie, okay, we'll just green light, 17 movies over 11 years for you like? No, it wasn't like that.
Speaker 1:They got the check to make the movie every single year, so they waited until the second one came out and how the second one was received, and then they said, okay, make a third one. Okay, make a fourth one. Okay, make a fifth one. Then they kept doing it and it's not like, okay, make a sixth and a seventh. No, it was every single year they got the green light to do it. So they had to. Kind of they ended the movie on a clip on just enough of a cliffhanger to like when they inevitably did get the okay to make another movie, they did it. But they also like that's when they started tying everything in the third one was when they really started to get a bit big for their britches on that one.
Speaker 1:Because then you find out that I think it's like when everything starts hitting and you find out that like that movie was happening at like two separate times or all been happening at the same time. Then you also find out that the second one was happening the same time, the third one and the fifth one are happening, and then the fifth one took place before the first one but at the same time as the seventh one, and I'm like that's a lot, it it all makes sense as you're watching the movie, because they'd like, oh my god, there's the fuck, there's the fucking person and the thing, and oh my god, it makes sense when you're watching the movie. But if you really sit back, like I just did, I'm sitting if you just sit back and try to explain it, it's like dude, what are you even talking about? That's the most. No, that, no, you don't. That's way too complicated to even try.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely feel like it works in the movies yeah, I would say I definitely feel like you watch it and you're like, yep, makes sense. You literally turn it off and go. Nope, don't get when you try to think back to it all of it.
Speaker 1:You tried it and it was just nope, don't got it the thing that irritated me about the third one was okay.
Speaker 3:So he's in the room with the girl that's being sprayed with water, right, yeah? And he has to reach through these pipes that are I don't know if they're like insanely cold or insanely hot, but anyway it's going to burn him. He's going to have to press his face up against them in order to reach the thing to save her. Yeah, dude, okay, take your sweater off and put it as a barrier against your skin. I was watching that and I was thinking you have clothing layers. Take them off and just put your face up against it. It's going to burn through the clothing, yeah. And then I felt I got like insanely upset at the, at the at the end, when you know he walks in and his, his wife, it has the, has the shotgun thing around her neck, yeah, yeah and so like, okay, that thing is tied to john's heart monitor like all he had.
Speaker 3:No, unless there was some I you know, unless there was some medical thing that you know, like where that monitor was, like inserted into his body, like just take the pads off and put it on your own, on your own heart, like you could have saved your. You could, you could have saved your life.
Speaker 1:He didn't know, and it's crazy he didn't know about. No, he didn't know about until afterwards, until he already killed him because it's, it's all on her not fucking explaining. Hey, I know you're mad, but don't kill that fucking guy because you see this, yeah, this isn't lovely pearl to run by. These are fucking 12 gauge buckshot. Like don't do it.
Speaker 3:But like there was a moment right before, like his, his heart rate, and she's like, no, you know, like, and she's telling him like he just kind of stood there with this dumb ass. Look on his face like, oh my God, like everything was moving in slow motion and I'm like like, just get the things off his chest and put it on you. They're sticky pads, just put it on, you know. So I was like in my mind, unhinged at that movie watching it again.
Speaker 1:I can only. I can also only assume that. You know, like I said, nothing is explained and like, so we're kind of going on our own things. But like, yeah, it's attached to the heart rate. So like, as soon as it reads that there's not a heart rate, even if they become detached, it's gonna set it off. I can only assume that yeah, like uh.
Speaker 2:Once it starts, it doesn't stop exactly scenario. Yeah, I mean probably like speed lower budget I also think the, the woman who was in the ice, that was like the first one he came across right first or second. Yeah, yep. So I give him a little bit of a benefit of the doubt there, because you probably you're in shock, you don't realize what's happening, you probably didn't realize she's actually gonna die, I guess I don't know. So like, maybe, sure, but that's like the only one I would be like uh, all right yeah you know like your adrenaline hasn't hit yet, I guess the one.
Speaker 1:I can't think of one that's. I arguably think it's the fuck. Is the rack the guy who hit his yeah let me paint the picture for you, peeps.
Speaker 1:This guy is strung out, each of his arms. He's completely set up in this monstrous rack where his arms and his legs and his head are set in this. They're all sandwiched in these contraptions and, as the timer starts, one thing at a time is starting to twist and twist and twist. So it's going to go with. One of his arms is starting to twist and twist and twist, so it's going to go with one of his arms.
Speaker 1:It's going to start turning and it's this giant rusted metal thing. So you know exactly what's going to happen. So it's going to completely twist his arm. His arms are popping out of its sock and the bones are breaking and this and then go the legs and then goes. So it's just going and going. So literally it goes arm, arm, leg, leg. He's just being completely, he's like being flipped inside out. And then the head as this guy is now screaming in horror pain. Then the head starts going and you're like oh fuck, you just know. Honestly, though, even if they did that and they didn't turn his head completely around, I really think that guy would have ended up dying anyway, like the body loss not even the blood loss.
Speaker 1:I think he, I think his body would have actually just shut down like the shock would have been too much for his brain actually like compute his brain he would have.
Speaker 1:His body would have literally just been so overstimulated and just all right, we're done, fuck this. And then just shut off before the blood loss would have killed him because, like, both his femurs are completely out. Just, he's a mess. He's a goddamn mess. I guess my last question would be is there any of the traps you think you think you could have made it through if you were? Uh, if you, if you were put in any of them?
Speaker 2:because, like I said, there was a couple of them, if you just sat and you thought rationally I feel like I said this before to you the one with the skinny girl and the fat guy, and she chops her arm off yeah yeah, I feel like, because they have to do the weight or whatever, I feel like I could definitely do that because, like right, from the beginning you're like oh, I can live without an arm.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to go ahead and say this one you can cut this out in editing, it's totally fine. I just I have to make the joke. You guys would be very simple unless you guys were in that trap together because like, oh my god, I'm going to die.
Speaker 2:You can live with one boob that's true, you can live without both, but it would be a lot harder to cut off and just taking a cleaver, like she did, and chopping an arm off you just once, one fell swoop we saw.
Speaker 1:I remember when we first saw that one but we watched that one and she's, you were like finally someone's fucking thinking Just take Cleaver, just bite down, don't be such a bitch Wham, just take it out.
Speaker 2:You were so just someone was finally smart. She was a little at the beginning because she tried to cut her stomach fat like the big guy and I'm like what?
Speaker 1:Like her finger or something like that one. Yeah, but yeah, I just listened, but yeah, I just listen, or whatever. The joke was, there it was, I had to say it. I was like listen, if either of you guys were in that trap, you guys would be fine, unless you were against each other, I don't know. But if you, you guys, were up against that fact, guys listen, just take your favorite, take the other one and send it.
Speaker 2:You're fine, you're good oh, but we could take turns. We could lop him on there and take turns hacking him off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we we could have teamed up. We could lop him on there and take turns hacking him off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3:We could have teamed up and beat that guy. Yeah, for sure, 100% oh well, yeah, because fuck that guy man. I will also say the ponytail one. You know, I think he could have shot through her hair to break her out of that.
Speaker 1:Oh, a million percent. He was in the whole fucking house Like you mean, it's not, it was like none of that. He could have cut the fucking hair. It was a knife. Yeah, it's gonna hurt like a mother, but it's like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um side note, everyone that I was thinking of in my head y'all have talked about the ice one, the pony tail, like the first question, kind of like after, like I said mine, things kept popping in, and then I think it was just Angie, it was like oh, yeah, and then the ice chick, oh, and then the pony tail. Yep, yep, same wavelength, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, yep, same same wavelength, I guess it just couldn't make me laugh though, because with with you know, I see the the ponytail one. Now I see as a in a whole new light with um learning, that there's a very specific kind of people out on social media, specifically tiktok. I'm looking at y'all um, some of you kind of people out on social media, specifically TikTok. I'm looking at y'all Some of you kind of like I can see there being a line to be that woman from some. I think I know a couple people who would be like wait, why does it seem so bad? She's the lucky one in this.
Speaker 2:Until your scalp rips off.
Speaker 1:Until she's getting scalped.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Potato panetherapy. You know same thing. I will say this In that one. I don't know why. I can't help but laugh at this one, but at the end of the day, that's the one where you find out what happened to Donnie Wahlberg after his movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's got the boot on because his leg's all fucked up. What he's being. He's got the boot on because his legs all fucked up he's being. He's suspended by. He's being, you know, hung and suffocated by a chain of but it's, it's the biggest block of ice you've ever seen in your fucking life.
Speaker 1:That's the best you could have come up with. Like just fuck it. Put him on a giant block of ice with these giant air dryers Melting the ice and it's filling up the pool. And if it fills up the pool it's gonna shock the other guy man you want to talk about. No pun intended, they fucking limp to the finish with that one like yeah, because whenever they cut back to what's going on there, there's just donnie walberg just fucking dancing like new kids on the block, still like on this fucking giant block of ice. It was the dumbest fucking thing. It was the three biggest blocks. It was literally all of Greenland and Article and like a third of the world from the first Ice Age. They just came and they just there's so much ice in this one fucking scene. It's the funniest, it's the dumbest, most clunky trap they had in, just in the franchise.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Shit like that, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's the little things. It's the little things. Congratulations. You're alive. Most people are so ungrateful to be alive, but not you, not anymore. Thanks for listening, and now you do your bit.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, this is where I come in, okay, yes, where you come in social medias, remember to tell your friends about us, share this episode, give us comments, give us ratings. We need all of that. We need you, and thank you so much for sticking with us. A special thanks to Lauren for joining the Insanity for an evening. You're welcome back anytime you want to talk about something crazy with us. Oh, thanks.
Speaker 1:Always fun. How would you know? You just got here, hey.
Speaker 3:With that bye. Everyone Say bye Kyle.
Speaker 1:Oh, bye, Kyle.
Speaker 3:Say goodbye Lauren, Bye a fun fact that I learned um about these movies is that um rob zombie was brought in as a consultant consultant, yeah. And the third one because they kept getting an nc-17 rating and they needed him to figure out how they could get the r rating, and it was. It was the scene with the girl that it was the nudity of the girl that was being frozen, that would have been a hilarious conversation to have with rob fucking zombie.
Speaker 1:Um right, it was more or less like yeah, you can't show the downstairs bits for a certain amount of time and you, you have to. Um what I learned? That? That when I learned that there's like, um, there's a wig, I thought that was kind of funny yeah, yeah, it's a merkin yeah, I didn't, I didn. Yeah, I didn't know that, I did not know that, and so I was like I just kind of thought it goes wow, there's a lot of women who are into that. It goes nope, that's Hollywood.
Speaker 2:That's yep.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that. I forgot when I learned that, but it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2:It's so funny.
Speaker 1:Kind of funny.
Speaker 2:Has to be hair.
Speaker 3:It's funny that women know these things and men. They have to learn them much later in life.
Speaker 1:Well, because it applies to you, you know what I mean. Like the guys aren't wearing those.
Speaker 3:Well, I've never worn a merkin either, but somehow I just know about them.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be honest. I was not expecting to be having a conversation about merkins on this episode, but here we are. Well, no, it's probably going to be honest. I was not expecting to be having a conversation about Americans on this episode but here we are.
Speaker 3:Well, no, it's probably going to be cut because we're way over time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll do my little outro here, and then we can just keep shooting the shit and talking about Americans, I guess.