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S1E26: Time Travel Rabbit Holes

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Time travel is supposed to be a fun “what if” until you follow the logic for more than thirty seconds and realize you’ve built a paradox you can’t crawl out of. We sit down with Mark Stanislavski, a published comic book writer and lifelong collector, and let the conversation rip from conspiracy-flavored rumors to the very practical problem of what happens when reality can no longer prove you’re real.

We get into the internet classics like suspicious old photos and “time traveler” sightings, then push past the easy jokes into the hard stuff: the grandfather paradox, the butterfly effect, and whether history “self-corrects” even if you remove a major figure. We also dig into the difference between intentional time travel and a time slip, including the infamous Man From Taured story that reads like a glitch between parallel universes and the multiverse.

Then we lighten it up with our favorite time travel movie mechanics and arguments about what even counts as time travel (time dilation, time loops, and timeline hopping all fight for the crown). Finally, we make it personal: if you only get a one-way choice, do you go to the past for dinosaurs and unanswered mysteries, or forward to see if humanity ever earns those flying cars?

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Disclaimer And Chaotic Cold Open

SPEAKER_00

Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions, and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based, and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised.

SPEAKER_04

Let's just let's kick this off.

SPEAKER_06

Good evening, ladies and germs. Come on.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so he's got the shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_06

I got this.

SPEAKER_01

I'm waiting for you to shut the fuck up right now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Jackass.

SPEAKER_04

Did not.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, hi Mark.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, hey, Johnny. What's the one?

Meet Mark The Comic Creator

SPEAKER_04

I couldn't find the clip, but I found one that was dubbed over. I was hoping to find Tommy Wiseau. Oh, hi, Mark. Welcome back to another riveting episode of the Silly Goose Society. I'm Kyle. This is Angie, and unfortunately, against my better judgment, we are joined by the baggest of douches, aka my father-in-law.

SPEAKER_06

Unfortunately, your father-in-law, yes.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, yes, yes. Mark Stan is Lowski. And just one time saying and trying to spell that last name out, you know the only reason why my wife married me. Mark, how the hell are you?

SPEAKER_06

I'm good, doucher. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me on. Finally, I know it took a little while, but I don't know that you guys are busy having these lame duck guests. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

These lame duck guests. Okay. All honesty. Okay, so in defense of our immaculate guests, um, it's it's not solely because of that. Um I don't know if you know this or not, but um I have raging ADHD and I can't remember shit.

SPEAKER_06

Um I mean, you're my son-in-law, so yeah, I know you have all kinds of problems.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say, I think he knows. I don't think this is a news flash.

SPEAKER_04

I was setting myself up there for something there. Anywho, so I just I swear to god, I just kept forgetting, like, shit, shit, we gotta get Mark. I still have to get Aaron's schedule. I've I've been in talks with Aaron to do the princess bride probably about a month before even probably a month before even brought it up to you, Mark.

SPEAKER_06

Wow, wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So my bad, Aaron. Anywho, so before we get too far down this ridiculous rabbit hole that we will tonight, um go ahead, Mark. If you'd like, go ahead and let our listeners know who you are, what you are, why you are, and what makes you you. And I guess what you do.

SPEAKER_00

Right, I was gonna say, and what you do.

SPEAKER_04

What you do.

SPEAKER_06

What I do. Uh well, again, thanks for having me on. I'm Mark Stanislavski. I am a published comic book writer, and I currently uh self-publish my stuff. Um I have a website, good ideascomics.com, with a store where you can peruse the store and and buy my comics that I sell there. Um Peruse. What? Peruse. Peruse. Well, there's one Peru. We have to be, I know it's silly goose, but we have to be sophisticated.

SPEAKER_00

See, it's good word usage. I like that. No, there's there's there's only one Peru. It's in South America. Right. Right. This is how this is gonna be for a whole hour, folks. Buckle up. Buckle up.

SPEAKER_03

Bye bye. Continue.

SPEAKER_06

Uh where was I? Oh, yes. Um Peru. Peru. Uh longtime comic book reader, collector. Um, I am literally surrounded by comic books in my room here.

SPEAKER_04

Literally. He's not kidding.

SPEAKER_06

Um Yeah, I mean how many tens of thousands of comics? Uh I have over 14,000 comic books.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Whoa.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I started in 1978.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_06

Uh yes, that was a long time ago. Jesus.

Why Time Travel Hooks Us

SPEAKER_04

Jesus Christ. And to see, it wasn't just a phase mom.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But one of my favorite topics, one of my favorite topics is time travel.

SPEAKER_05

Ooh. Spoiler talking about today.

SPEAKER_06

Every time I'm a sucker, every time I see an article that mentions time travel, I have to read it. Um, I have a couple of books on time travel. I love it.

SPEAKER_00

I think it like it's a good topic, especially with all the chatter and stuff about these scientists that are Oh god, we're not gonna start on that one.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we are. We are they're listening to us, Anne. You want to go missing two?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, maybe. I mean, what say no?

SPEAKER_02

Shots no. Can you just take me out back so I can be shot?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, oh no, please. Please don't take me out back and never mind.

SPEAKER_06

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, the um, you know, a lot of the things that it's alleged that they were working on are these concepts of anti-gravity and space travel and time travel. Um, there was, you know, there have been a couple of the scientists have made kind of like these um social media posts, like, hey, this is what we're doing. I'm being watched, you know, so on and so forth. And oh, spoiler alert, like the aliens that everyone talks about are actually time travelers from the future. So there's a lot of that going on. So yeah, I'm I'm all ready for time travel.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I love the uh I love the picture that you see on Facebook where uh, you know, it's supposedly like 1930, and there's this guy and they circle him, and he has his hand up to his ear. Why does this guy have a cell phone in 1930? And who's he talking to?

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah. Yeah, but there wouldn't be cell there wouldn't be cell towers. Right. There's no cell towers in the third. Right.

SPEAKER_06

There's no cell towers. So the phone it would be basically useless. It would be a paperweight because you're not gonna get anybody.

Viral Photos And Future Traveler Claims

SPEAKER_04

There's no now. I will say this, I have seen the ones of the it It's funny as we'd bring that up because same thing. There's like ones of what is it? Like the uh there's like a picture or a video of like uh was it like when the railroads were something had to do with the railroads, I want to say. It was like when they were connected, like the the Transatlantic Railroad or some bullshit, right? At the big ceremony of the final Right. Isn't there a dude you know, he's in like just like a t-shirt and like some like his his outfit and whatever does not so like 1920s or like like even before that, I think it was like the like the like the what the 1910s or some shit like that, whenever it was. Like that that guy is clearly not dressed for that decade because he's in like poured shorts and a t-shirt or some shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's very, very odd.

SPEAKER_04

Very odd. I remember I was first seeing it in like documentaries and other, you know, whatever, like you know, shows and whatever the hell that dive into these theories and whatnot. So this was so this was before like AI videos and AI generating blah blah blah. Because like now I'm there's no way to prove that you guys aren't AI right now and I'm just talking into the void.

SPEAKER_06

So I mean Are you not always talking into the void?

SPEAKER_04

I wasn't what I wasn't talking to.

SPEAKER_06

But but but but all seriousness.

SPEAKER_04

Have you seen that one, Mark? And what are your feelings on that?

SPEAKER_06

I don't I don't I don't know if I've seen that one, but remember, just because it's a picture doesn't mean that somebody nowadays can't digitally insert somebody into that picture to make it seem, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I think I think the thing is though, I think a lot of these pictures that I know I know the exact one that he's talking about, they kind of came, they were been circulated um way before like AI. So, you know, this is stuff that you would find on early message boards, you know, early um, you know, like when kind of the internet became more of a thing, and you, you know, like it was a very different landscape than it is now. Um, you would find these like photos. Um, so I I don't know. I mean, I guess there's always been a way to manually manipulate photos.

SPEAKER_04

Um you know, yeah, because like the Russians did it in World War II with a rocket.

SPEAKER_00

Photoshop has been around for a long time.

SPEAKER_06

For a long time. Well, let me ask you this if you were able, when was that, 1910? Something like that, yeah. So let's say you were able to travel back to 1910. Okay, so you go back to 1910. Why the fuck would you want to be in that picture? I mean, wouldn't you want to go somewhere else in 1910? Some some place.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, well, I guess I mean you've seen more important things. I mean, you've seen the terminator, you've seen the terminator, Mark. Like, you don't know what the hell the future is in someone's level, but maybe at that exact moment, like let's just go off of that one. Let's just go like a terminator thing. Like, he's got to go back to stop, you know, Mecca Hitler in the year come with me if you want to live. Exactly. But but remember, so she was sent back, and Sarah Connor was just a waitress at a diner who like knew nothing or no one. They're just like, you have no fucking ideally how goddamn important you are in like the next like 50 years.

SPEAKER_06

So you just happen to find yourself at the meeting of the two railroads. The guy takes a picture of you. Hey, hey, buddy, come here. I know you don't look like you're from around here, but come on and stand in this picture with us.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, maybe it was some maybe it was somebody with a very specific. It was a photo of the crowd. Well, no, it was a like maybe this person who was a time traveler had a very specific tism that they were really into railroads.

SPEAKER_06

A tism. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, shell. Future tisms. Future tisms.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, railroads are a thing.

SPEAKER_04

It's not like it's not like a photo of like, okay, everyone gets to get to take the photo. It's like a photo like of the crowd. You know what I mean? And so it's just like a Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06

It's a crowd photo. It's a crowd photo. I haven't seen the photos.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, no, you're good. No, no, you're good. You're good. Um, yeah, it's just like a random photo of like the crowd, just like a candid whatever, like no one's like paying attention or posing for a photo. It's just funny that it was like, at least, like I said, we're all stuck with something that is wildly hypothetical if this if this photo is real, if whatever it is, and more or less there could be a million reasons. Yeah, maybe he was just like insanely autistic, which was like, I need to see trains. All the trains in history, I must see.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So other than that, who gives a fuck, right? Maybe.

Paradoxes And The Grandfather Problem

SPEAKER_00

So where do you land? Just really do a deep dive here. Just dive in head first. Yeah. So where do you land on all of the paradoxes that you know time travel could cause?

SPEAKER_04

I'm glad you asked.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

He gets a podium and shuffle some cards.

SPEAKER_00

My top of his car, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_04

He's got a whole presentation. It's like the movie Patent. It's got a giant American flag. It's just a huge.

SPEAKER_00

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Mark's TED Talk.

SPEAKER_04

It's Mark Finding of Pepe Sylvia.

SPEAKER_06

Hollywood has, I guess, you could say poisoned the minds of people with their with their ridiculous theories on how time travel works. Um, like uh, you know, oh, you know, if you travel back and meet yourself, you can't touch them, or you'll both explode in a fiery firework display. You know, how ridiculous. Um let's say, let's say that for whatever reason, maybe you're just insane. Uh, you want to go back in time and kill your grandfather.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. I mean whatever.

SPEAKER_06

Maybe he was the biggest doucher on the planet, and you're like, you know what, I hate that guy. I want to kill him.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Or even if you wanted to kill your own father. Let's see, we can even go that route. So you go back, you're successful. You kill your grandfather. So now technically, uh, you should what? Just disappear into the ether, right? Just fade away into nothing. Uh I pose that no, you will not fade away into nothing. Um you still exist. So let's say you get away with it. You go back to the present day. Now, one of two things could happen. Either you get back to the present day, and it's an alternate universe where you're the same person.

SPEAKER_00

Kind of far-fetched. Timelines, yes.

SPEAKER_06

But if you get back, and there is no such thing as alternate universes, alternate timelines, whatever you want to call it, then basically you're there, you're you're nobody. You don't exist, but you're there. So think about this. Now, now how do you live? You get back, you're nobody. You don't exist, you don't exist anywhere. In any database, you don't exist, you don't have a birth certificate, you don't have a high school diploma, you you know, you even if you brought your ID and they look at your ID, if they run your ID, you're nobody. You will not come up.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but then but then also on the okay, so all of your pay okay, so all okay, so your social security number, your high school diploma, so you can't do it.

SPEAKER_06

No, you're gonna get back whatever job you had is gone.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but but then at the same time, though, it it just why would all of that stuff be gone and not exist, but you still would. Like it would just make sense to me that you would say I don't know necessarily how we can.

SPEAKER_06

You can make the paradox.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. Which is really annoying. You just think and talk yourself in a circle, so then you just sit in a corner and cry for a little bit.

SPEAKER_06

Right. Well, think about it. I mean, so now you let's say it's a it's a two-way trip. So now you can't go anywhere else in time. So now you're stuck. Okay, so how do you live? How do you get a job? How do you how do you get money to eat? How do you get a a house? How do you how do you do anything?

SPEAKER_04

I mean you don't exist. So literally just do whatever you want. There's no way to prove that you are you. Just do what you want. Fucking take shit. Kill people, give a shit. We don't exist.

SPEAKER_06

So what? You you're gonna do that for a week and then you're gonna wind up in jail for the rest of your life? They can't put me in jail. I don't exist. If you do something, you're still gonna get arrested and you're still gonna go to jail. They don't give a shit if you exist or not. If you commit a crime, you're gonna go to jail. Who are they putting in jail?

SPEAKER_00

I I think you would eventually end up in they would put you in an insane asylum because you would be telling them the story, like, no, I'm a time traveler and trying to explain your existence. This is what happened. It'd probably lock you up. See, now I'm going on the show. The only other thing that you could do would be to, you know, cross the border into a country and assume a new identity, you know, as a as an immigrant, you know, a paper.

SPEAKER_04

That's what they've all been doing. Never mind. Yeah, we're not gonna go down that road, but we're not going down that one.

SPEAKER_00

We're talking about it. But you know, I mean, you would have to you would have to then kind of figure out a way to create an identity.

SPEAKER_04

See, my idea is that it I mean, if we're just gonna go down another movie trope idea that we're gonna pull into this one. Okay, yes. You're typically they're gonna say, oh yeah, I'm a time traveler. This guy's just fucking crazy. Well, okay, we gotta find out who this is. Well, we're gonna run his we're gonna run his prints, we're gonna run his DNA, we're gonna run as everything. We're going to spend no expensive. That was a terrible Attenborough, but still. Um to find out who you are. You don't exist. You are a complete ghost. And then before you know it, you're in front of the FBI, the CIA, you're in a freaking black uh wannabe blackwater site that makes Gitmo look like the fucking country club kind of a thing. And they're just like, okay, you don't exist. Who are you? You you can't be these guys like no, I'm literally just I'm just Mark. Like, no, but so then that's how you become like the most useful like assassin ever. Because you don't exist, but you do exist.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's interesting because there have been um instances where, and I'm trying to think, there was, oh gosh, this guy showed up somewhere, and he had a it looked like a very legal passport. And I think like he said he was from, and in the passport was stamped from some country that doesn't exist, and he talked about that he was he was just that, a time traveler, and he actually existed. Um he was from a place that was like I think if I'm remembering the story right, it's something like he was from a land that was on the outer edges of uh Antarctica.

SPEAKER_04

He comes from a land down under.

SPEAKER_00

And so they they lock him up and they put him, you know, they're trying to figure this out. They're trying to figure out okay, you're trying to get in this country or whatever country it was, we don't know who you are, we're gonna put you in a holding cell. The guy disappears out of the holding cell, and it's just like it's like one of these things in history that's like this big mystery. Like, who was this guy?

SPEAKER_04

It was DB Cooper.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I mean, there there have been like these weird instances where people have shown up speaking different languages, languages that don't exist, you know, from from countries that don't exist. Um, it is interesting to think about like what is really going on there.

SPEAKER_04

But do we really want to know?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_02

How do we I want to know? Tell me, I want to know.

Butterfly Effects Versus Destiny

SPEAKER_04

Here comes on uh on my uh next questions of where where you how you feel it works, how you feel it believes, and so on where it believes doesn't fucking matter. At least to my knowledge, there's two theories at least the most known theories when it comes to um time travel, uh the existence, the future, whatever the fuck. Um is destiny and coincidence. Right? So the ones that go with that was so I'm curious of where you guys are, which one you feel. And so the ones you know, so so the two examples I usually give are was Sound Sound of Thunder, is that what it is, right? The Briberry book is that the one where you go they go back in time to like hunt dinosaurs or some shit, you know, like oh, yeah, yeah. You can't get off of this path. If you step off this path, you can really fuck stuff and the heapy guy kills the butterfly, and next thing you know, dinosaurs are still roaming the earth and whatever. So so so there's that route is that no matter the the the smallest chain of events can be set off by the by exactly that the most sh the most who gives a shit instance like you kill a butterfly, next thing you're being chased by dinosaurs because everything, as Yoda says, always in motion, the future is. So you never know how it's gonna go, just going that way. Or is it the That was very awkward and weird.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, is it in motion the future is?

SPEAKER_04

It was he wasn't that one, he was a bit more of like his wise, like his sage kind of voice, not his awkwardly corny lady boy voice, but wow okay. Moving on. That's fair. Um or there's um see, I say the movie because because movies I want to say, what it was is it is it Guy Pierce? Is that the actor's name?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So it was just chill, okay? Just I know. I know that's it.

SPEAKER_06

Why don't you bring up the original instead of that piece of shit remake?

SPEAKER_04

Because that because I was born in the 1900s. Yeah. I was born in the late 1900s. That's why Mark. It was one of the late 1900s. Anywho. But you know, I'm talking about okay, honestly, I'll just bring up the book because it's the book goes off of the same um what you call it as as movies. Is that no matter what you do, everything happens. It may not happen the exact same way, but it's going to happen. If you're gonna die on August 4th, you're gonna die on August 4th. It doesn't matter if you're if it's natural causes, you're hit by a bust, you're shot, blah, blah, blah. I don't know if I believe that. Everything happens. It's it's going to. So it kind of brings into that. You know, it it brings in that question. I that's you know, the cause then you get assholes who do they want to start wiggling whichever deity, invisible person that lives in the sky, they try to just force in there somewhere. They try to rape your knowledge with God. So you know, and faith and destiny and all that shit. So I don't know, just which one you feel is more like do you think shit just shit is gonna happen it when it's gonna happen, how it's gonna happen, or you have no fucking clue.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I think I have no fucking clue.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I don't I don't think, I don't believe, actually, I don't believe either of those. I don't believe that if you're able to go in the past, if you I don't know, if you dropped a stone down a sewer, then all of a sudden it creates this tidal wave of this tidal wave of exactly. There's no more water in the earth, you know. That's exactly.

SPEAKER_04

I don't believe that's the most minuscule things, but I do feel there's there's a high possibility everyone okay. The other age-old one that they talked about, you know, you go back to whenever the hell it was, and you know, you find little find little baby Addie there, you just chuck him out the window. Let's face it, you're gonna offset some shit in reality. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06

I read an article actually not too long ago.

SPEAKER_04

Oh Christ, here we go. He was that was supposed to be a that was supposed to be a laugh, and he was like, Oh, I found this. Oh fuck, here we go.

SPEAKER_06

And they were talking about uh quantum particles and and quantum physics and how all that stuff works. And they said that even if somehow you were able to go back in time and let's say you were able to kill Adolf Hitler, they're saying that um somehow uh quantum physics would so like World War II still would have happened. It just wouldn't have been Hitler, it would have been one of his cronies that came up in the in the Nazi party, it would have been Himmler, it would have been Gring, it would have been somebody else. Somebody would have taken his place. You know?

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, and I think that's like the question is if you you know go back in time and you take Hitler out, you know, uh, are you getting something worse? Like, does that does that open the door for something worse? Exactly.

SPEAKER_06

Cue the music for the movie 1962. Yeah.

Time Slips The Man From Taured

SPEAKER_00

So I have a I have a question for you, but I did had to look it up because it was gonna it was gonna bother me, but this leads into my question. So what I the story that I was talking about is the man from Torid. T-A-U-R-E-D. I don't know if I'm saying it right, but it looked like Torrid, so that's what I'm gonna say. Um so this was in July of 1954. A Caucasian-bearded man arrived at a um airport in Tokyo. He spoke French and some Japanese, and when he handed over his passport, um, they noticed that it was issued from Torrid. And this, you know, of course, this country does not exist. Um he insisted that he existed, he had he had existed for nearly a thousand years and pointed to Andorra on a map on it at its location, and he also carried stamps from multiple countries, currency from Europe. So he was questioned for a long time. He was taken to a guarded hotel, and that's where he disappeared. He completely disappeared from the room without a trace. So the question is is it time travel or is it a time slip? Because I do think that there's probably a difference in time slips or you know, parallel universes kind of bleeding into each other rather than time, then it's being an intentional time travel.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because time traveling is you're on you're on your own timeline and you're moving linear. Let's just let's just let's say we're looking at you're moving horizontally on your timeline. That's where a time slip is alternate timelines, alternate dimensions, you know, different realities. I feel is correct?

SPEAKER_06

Yes, yeah. Okay, yeah. They have proven the existence of uh the multiverse of parallel universes.

SPEAKER_04

So I mean, yeah, Mark, you were there. We saw the movie, it was fantastic. No, no multiverse of madness, man.

SPEAKER_06

Ah, the good good movie, by the way.

SPEAKER_04

It was a very good movie. I don't think I would ever go back in those exact situations in which we saw to see that movie, but still. I digress.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, yeah, so it's just an interesting, like, and I think that's just another layer because you know, we go back to the pictures that we were talking about. You know, the guy was the guy, was that a time slip, and it just happened to be caught on camera? You know, like this guy just because there have been these stories. Um, there was another story about these women who um like turned a corner in uh oh god, France somewhere. And once they um what what's the what's the famous place everyone tours? Uh was where Marie Antoinette lived. What is that place called?

SPEAKER_04

Uh the fucking shithell.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, whatever that place is called. Um fuck France.

SPEAKER_04

What?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you talk about the prison, you talk about the place, you talk about what you No, I'm trying to think of like the famous, uh, it's a the the castle there, the Bastille lands, I whatever it's called. But anyway, so they turned a corner and then all of a sudden it was like they said that they felt like they were almost like like in a dream state. Like everything kind of like fuzzed, and then it it felt like they were walking through like almost like gauze, you know.

SPEAKER_06

Well, they probably shouldn't have drank all that cognac before they but they were said to go walking around France.

SPEAKER_00

But then they looked around and like everyone was like in that period clothing, and they even claim to have have seen Marie Antoinette.

SPEAKER_04

Well, yeah, because that's just France. No one has actually given up with dressing like that and all the fucking tomfoolery that's ever happened in that goddamn country.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, I mean it's like so that you know, if that's real, then that's you know, that's a time slip. Can you can you god where where where has your brain just gone?

SPEAKER_04

No, my brain just went because one the other when we're kind of done with this one, it's just another question. The same thing, it goes back to like time traveling movies and whatever. So we'll we'll keep going with this one. It's just shit I find funny sometimes. I mean, unless we're just fuck it. All right, cool. We're just going with that one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I mean, should we be funny? We're waiting.

SPEAKER_06

I thought we answered the question, but okay, fair enough.

Weirdest Time Travel In Movies

SPEAKER_04

We answered the question. Okay. In there, maybe? I don't know. Anywho, um, what do you feel is the like the funniest? What do you feel is like the best or the worst? Like the or the funniest, like uh way that time travel is uh you've seen done in a show or or a movie or or in in anything, like how time traveling reacts. So, like example, like the Terminator, there's just like that the like the electricity that's out of nowhere, then there's that ball that just literally just dissolves anything that it's in the note. Like it eats half that. Like, that's pretty goddamn funny to me.

SPEAKER_06

Or whatever is back. You know, there is a time displacement equipment that they have in the future, that's what sends them back. So there is a machine, just that the machine is sending the them back, and the machine doesn't come along for the ride because it's a one-way trip.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly, exactly. But the fact that when he arrives, there's that, you know, the whatever, it's like a of like a an energy, it's like a ball of energy. There's a perfect sphere. Was it like the second or the third one? When he's there and there's like the corner of the truck is like just gone, right? So, like, you know, I'll just put it this way. I think the funniest one to me that that I find it just fucking hilarious because of just how random it is, is what is it? Like the um like the broom closet in um was it eleven eleven twenty-two sixty three?

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

1122. What's the time slip? Just the broom closet in this random fucking diner. It's just so much. Just like you're literally just going to get like the lemon pledge to like clean the bathroom and then oh shit, I'm in the 60s. That's fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_06

That's fucking hilarious. It's weird that that that closet is like a uh uh I don't know if you want to call it a nexus of of reality.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's like an infinite corridor kind of thing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's just just but I guess it's just because it's a broom closet in a diner. And like it's just anyone could, you know, like I said, just someone could have at any point just randomly just slipped into that and then just fallen back into the 60s.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I mean, one of the weirdest time travel machines, I guess I've seen, was in uh 12 monkeys. Oh yeah. That was kind of weird. They're like suspended in this plastic thing and then it shoots them through the hole. Yeah. That's a good movie. Oh, I love 12 monkeys. A good movie. That's a great movie. It's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_00

Always like how they uh always picture time travel, especially like it's so like in the I think is it called the Time Machine? It was an old it's an old movie, and they're like in this big, it's like a it's like they're in a seat and like there's like this giant wheel behind them, and then and then you're like that old like this tunnel and like scenes are you know going around and around and around. Like it just they always picture time travel as like you're going through some kind of that's George Powell's the time machine.

SPEAKER_06

That is that is yeah, like this.

SPEAKER_00

That's my favorite movie.

SPEAKER_06

Are you kidding? That's your favorite movie. I thought the Ten Commandments is your favorite movie. No, actually, The Matrix is my favorite movie, but Batch is the Matrix. I still love the time George Powell's the time machine. That is a great movie. It is good. I think I think another one of the the weirdest um time travel uh things that they used was in the movie Somewhere in Time.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if you've ever seen it.

SPEAKER_06

With Christopher Reed and Jane Seymour and basically Reeves, Reeves. If you want to go, if you like if you wanted to go back to 1922, you have to dress in their clothing, all your money, everything has to be from 1922.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And then basically, with the power of your mind, you just hypnotize yourself or whatever and bring yourself to 1922.

SPEAKER_04

That's pretty cool. It's definitely a different take on it.

SPEAKER_06

So it's definitely different, and it's kind of weird.

SPEAKER_04

I respect that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And we're also talking about time. We're talking about time tracking. That's true, but there's a lot of weird shit. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Can we just say a couple things on that movie? Um Jane Seymour is so beautiful in that movie. Oh my god, she's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But the scene where he pulls the coin out, and I don't know what the date was.

SPEAKER_06

It was Yeah, whenever the movie was made, 1989 or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, like he looks at that, and then like you see, like he's pulling, like she can see him like leaving her reality, and she's freaking out. Oh gosh, just that's so heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's a rough one.

SPEAKER_00

Man, I haven't thought about that movie in a long time.

SPEAKER_06

It's kind of um it's kind of a cheap way to do it though, because I mean, he was supposed to make sure that everything was of that period.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But yet he missed a penny. I mean, come on, man.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Go ahead, go. Well, I think I think he had, didn't he like he had he had been back in time and then he came back, and then he was like he had maybe come back a couple times, and I don't know if he was like in a rush or in a hurry to maybe get back. I'm trying to remember.

SPEAKER_06

No, I thought it was all he went back at once and it was like all continuous. Maybe maybe it was after he was thrown back, he tried to get back again, but he never could. Yeah, he never could.

SPEAKER_03

Then you're back again, a fucked up tale.

SPEAKER_06

But yeah. Yeah, that was that was a good movie. I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. The score to that is beautiful, but oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Uh that was my mother's favorite movie. Somewhere in time. And she loved she loved the music too. It was it is good. It's a good score. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I used to be able to play that in the piano. Anyway.

SPEAKER_06

That's uh Rachmanonoff, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Isn't that that song by the B52s?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Rokmanov.

SPEAKER_02

Rach Manonov. That's great, yeah. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Um, I was trying to say, okay, so you won't know what no one found anything funny about Back to the Future. We haven't even talked about Back to the Future. Back to the Future.

SPEAKER_04

Just leave that movie alone. Just leave that franchise alone. Spoiler alert, really sorry. I don't give a flying fuck whose rough whose feathers I'm gonna ruffle. I do not care for that franchise.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, the first one's a classic.

SPEAKER_04

Uh I can respect I can respect it and like what it did, and and pop culture, it's classic, but it's still just like like gone with the wind. I'm sorry. Like it's like a lot of trilogies.

SPEAKER_06

The second one, not as good as the first, and then the third one was just total trash.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, Kyle, I heard that little thing. Fuck you. Gone with the wind.

SPEAKER_06

I said that to the message.

SPEAKER_00

I fuck you. We will fight right now.

SPEAKER_06

Gone with the wind. That wasn't a time travel movie, was it? No, no. No, I was joking on the time.

SPEAKER_00

He was talking about terrible movies, and he brought up.

SPEAKER_06

Gone with the wind is a classic. No, but it's a good classic, though. Just like the Maltese Falcon and not Citizen Kane.

SPEAKER_04

That movie can get fucked up.

SPEAKER_06

You know, I've never seen Citizen Kane.

SPEAKER_04

Don't waste your time.

SPEAKER_06

So I cannot comment on.

One Way Trip Past Or Future

SPEAKER_04

Do not waste your time. It's the wagon. That's all I gotta say. It's the fucking wagon. And but like, yeah, it's a classic movie. It's one of the greatest movies ever made. It is like a month of just fuck no. It's just stop. I get it. It's a classic, old movies and old bullshit. I'd go back and you know what? I'd go back in time and slap the bastard who came up with that movie. That's what I would do if I was able to travel, time travel.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, if you could go back in time, where where would you go? What what is it a time period? Is this is it a specific place?

SPEAKER_06

I've got one better for you. What? If you could only if if you had a one-way trip, you could only either go backward or forward in time, which one would you do?

SPEAKER_00

I guess I have questions.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. You thought I was impossible, Mark. Because, like, same, I have a lot of people. What are your questions?

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So if I go back, does anything that I do affect the future?

SPEAKER_04

Well, of course. Okay, so you can go back and you can go far enough back and invent Amazon, is what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like I could go back and buy uh a fuck ton of um like you know uh and then when I come back, my you know, family uh are billionaires. Like, is that a possibility? Okay.

SPEAKER_04

So everything still happens the way it happens, Google still becomes a thing.

SPEAKER_06

And you know, the the I mean we don't know what the consequences will be.

SPEAKER_04

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_00

But like if I had the if I could go back and had the wedding, I had the I had to be.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, if you want to waste your one trip trying to buy Bitcoin in the past, then so be it.

SPEAKER_00

Like, say I had a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04

We just use that as an example. Like I can still go back in time and I can manipulate so that yes, I am whichever multi-gajillionaire in the future. So gotta hang out there for a little bit, you know?

SPEAKER_00

See, this is a tough one for me though, because I'm a firm believer that anything, and and I've had this, you know, people ask, well, if you could go back, would you change it? If you could go back, would you do this, that, and the other thing different? Everything, all roads from my ancestors to present day, all roads led to me having my daughter Maddie. And if there was a chance to that anything would change to where this wonderful woman would not exist, I wouldn't want to risk it. So I think I would go forward.

SPEAKER_04

That was very sweet. I don't even think she listened, but still. What about you go? What would I do? Okay. Alright. God, I don't even want to fucking share now because like, yeah, I just she says I want to go forward. I want to go into the past, but for like kind of like two reasons. I I'm sorry. I just I'm I need to know I need to I need to know who did Kennedy. I need to know. It's killing me. Because we know I just listen, I don't know who did it. I don't care who done did it. If there's one thing I know, I know who didn't fucking do it. That's all I know.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, wait, it's like I need to see that. You said it's a one-way, one, it's a one-way trip though, right? Yeah. You don't get to come back.

SPEAKER_06

You can only go forward or back. You can't like it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you can come back. You just can't say, okay, now I'm gonna go forward. No, you can only have one choice. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so you can just go, oh, in that case, oh, then probably the past two. So I would just want to go back and just see some dope shit and just like fuck around with shit and like get away with it. Like, are you kidding me? Like, if there's another thing that I think now, I know Mark will probably correct me on this one, because he lives through most of it. Not all of it, but I think all of it, right? No, most of it. Anywho, doesn't matter. The Cold War, I feel like if you were a dude like in the government, like just kind of like the regular like drunks for like the CIA or whatever, like, dude, you were fucking, you were living it up. There was no rules. You were literally writing the book of what not to do, but it was also trial and error. Like you had shit like MK Ultra going on, Project Paperclip, yes, all these other fucking, what was it? Um, fucking Plum Island. Like, you're just they're just fucking with everything. And let's face it, no one was sober working in any of those agencies for like at least 25, 30 years.

SPEAKER_00

So that's your motivation to go back in time for a job that you can drink.

SPEAKER_04

No, I drink? Are you they were inventing drugs when they invented narcotics then? You mean to tell me that like George H.W. Bush wasn't ripping mean lines and then like feeding LSD to like criminals. Like, that's exactly what their day consisted of before their 9:30 coffee and whiskey was just the most heinous shit. I'm also talking about arguably the second, if not the most stressful time to be alive. Had to have been like the Cuban Missile Crisis is even now then even considered to even comparing it to today, has got to be the closest we've ever been to nuclear war and the end of the world has got to be so close. We were literally right there, like literal the missiles were in launch position, all they needed was the button to be pushed. That's how close we were. Like, even now, with how fucked up everything is now, we are nowhere near as close to the end of the world as we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, this is and I bet you and and as much as everybody knew about it, I bet you fucking no one knew about it, too.

SPEAKER_06

No, no one knew. Now they know. Now they know, but back to the book.

SPEAKER_02

It but they didn't know then.

SPEAKER_06

That's just ah man, that's I didn't know how close they were.

SPEAKER_04

It was so easy to be a serial killer then, too. Like, I s we'll watch like I can't tell you how many times how many exactly you're a white woman, so like you watch all these murder documentaries, all this other horrible shit, and then Lauren watches a bunch and so on and so forth, and a lot of like the serial killers back then. Oh, yeah, all you had to do was just like have a car that was reliable enough to get you a couple of towns over, and then just have the most normal fucking job ever. And then you'd be like, Yep, no, I have no idea why these hundred of male bodies are now in the crawl space of my house. What smell are you talking about? You know, just gay stuff. Like what?

SPEAKER_00

Do you know that do you know that um the serial killers are on the rise in less um uh uh industrialized or you know like westernized um countries?

SPEAKER_02

I believe it.

SPEAKER_00

It's harder and harder for serial killers to operate.

SPEAKER_06

Well, yeah, because everything's recorded. Forensic, right. There's a camera everywhere. Forensic medicine is off the chart better. Yeah. DNA, we can now read DNA. That's that's the big thing.

Dinosaurs Crusaders And Food Firsts

SPEAKER_04

For like Jack the Ripper killings, we can solve like nowadays thanks to DNA or some bullshit. So like, yeah, it's if you could dude, I'm telling you, if you can jaywal and not get a fucking ticket and get away with it, like that would blow my mind, let alone killing somebody. Kidding me? Yeah, Jesus. How about you? Where would you go?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Oh, I would go in the future. Go in the future?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, future. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, so here's not for Angie's reasons, but just for the fact that I want to see if we ever get fucking flying cars. I want a flying car, man.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so here's the thing though. What happens if you go into the future and then like lights out? Like, you know, we push the buttons. Like, are you just there in the nothing? Do you are not are is it bombed out? Well, that's right. Now you gotta go back. You know what I mean? Like, well, you know, uh Umbrella Academy, when it happened to what's his name and he got like stuck because the world ended. Right.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, that's a that's a that's a risk you take. But I would rather risk that than the other way. If I could go back and in time just to like in just to observe, not interact, but just to observe somehow. Um hands down a thousand percent, it would be back to dinosaurs. I want to see a real dinosaur.

SPEAKER_04

I want to see a dinosaur. I just that would be that'd be that'd be something. See something like that one. I'd love to. It's kind of a cliche thing to say. It doesn't necessarily have to be Woodstock, but like I just I want to see like Jimi Hendrix. I would love to see the doors, like, you know, shit like that. Like music that we love so much. I would have loved to have seen them like in their prime or ones that like we didn't, you know, see fucking Elvis before he discovered drugs. You know what I mean? Shit like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. That would be that would be cool.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, and let's let's alright, let's all just come on, let's all just be let's all just let's all just be adults here.

SPEAKER_00

What?

SPEAKER_04

Not necessarily saying you have to be a genocidal sociopath, but like fucking like clad in armor, riding through the holy land with like a claymore on the back of a fucking horse, and then just like walloping a couple of heretics. Like, come on, tell alright, tell me you did not tell me you didn't just feel a little wiggle in your pants for like being like a crusader. I don't care which side you were for, but I'm just talking about being on the back of a seed in full armor and then just fucking knocking someone out who you think is sign up for the Roman Legion.

SPEAKER_06

Right? Come on, like your ass with a dirty sponge.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. That's what I want to do. You wouldn't want to go to any of like Caligula or like Nero's like original. No, fuck. Come on, you wouldn't want to party with Caligula?

SPEAKER_00

You know the STDs were probably rampant. They didn't even have them.

SPEAKER_06

And who cares? And you didn't get no shot either to clear it up. You got that.

SPEAKER_04

You just you just you just died. You just died. And you know, I don't know, like philosophy and other like dope shit, you know. I think to see how the world operated without shit we take for granted. You know what I mean? Like writing. Like actual like writing.

SPEAKER_00

You know what? I'm gonna go back to Egypt where um oh his name's just that guy that got mad about the copper. Oh fuck, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and he chiseled out his complaint letter um on stone. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back and watch that unfold. I really do. What episode, what episode was that?

unknown

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Um what was the joke we cracked? It was like the first negative Yelp review or something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It was like 8 billion BC.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was just like, how mad do you have to be to go home and chisel something and rock?

SPEAKER_02

You invent writing to talk shit. Something like that.

SPEAKER_00

That would be that would be so cool just to see like that little like if you had like an invisibility cloak, like Harry Potter, and you could go back and see some of the shit play out. That would be so fun.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I mean they had papyrus back then, didn't they?

SPEAKER_00

They could write on this was chiseled. This was chiseled in rock. Like we have it. Wait, like it's in a museum. Is this like ancient Egypt? Yeah, like yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Must have been way ancient.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. It was Hey, you know what?

SPEAKER_06

Human beings are gonna be human beings, right? So even back then, I'm sure things pissed people off, and they wanted other people to know about it. God damn it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, yeah, of course people got pissed people off. Because you want to know how many people we made it to? It as humanity, if you were to believe one book is actual what happened and so on and so forth, how many people made it to existence before we started killing each other? Exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Three.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. We made it to four, we realized four's too many. Four's too many. You're dead. So, yeah. So the fact that a guy, when there was like what, maybe a couple hundred thousand people on the planet, got so mad at someone he had to go and fucking chisel a complaint about him. Yeah, doesn't surprise me. Do I think it's funny because this guy's just like muttering to himself and like I can't even like without being horrendously offensive, like you're like a bad ancient Egyptian, like muttering like words. I can't do an accent or that or an impression of someone in ancient Egyptian.

SPEAKER_00

I bet you back then that the word fuck existed. Because I bet you he was motherfucking that copper seller up one side and down the other.

SPEAKER_06

Did did you ever see that show? What is it on? Netflix? The the history of swear words?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Nick Cage.

SPEAKER_04

Yep, it was it's it's beautiful. It's fucking great. It's uh I think I love it that it's Nick Cage who's doing it.

SPEAKER_05

It's so funny.

SPEAKER_04

It's so oh my god, it's so fucking funny. That that'd be fun to just like if you could see when the first time something was done or something was said. You know what I mean? Like, I'd love to okay, just a callback to last week. Like, I would have loved to have been in the room when Jonathan Davis of Corn came up with that part from Freak on a Leash. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. You don't just do that and you're just like, fucking what? That one. The first time someone the first time someone said fuck, he goes, What does it mean? It means fuck you. Huh. You know what? I don't know what you mean, but I know exactly what you mean. Shit like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And you know the. Oh, I'd love to go back.

SPEAKER_06

I think about what did they say? Let's see. How can I say this? Oh, Christ. In in BC times, they didn't say Jesus Christ, because he didn't exist yet. So what did they say?

SPEAKER_04

I just went fucking Hannibal. That's what they said.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, not goddamn Hannibal. Hannibal, Barkham! Or was it another JC? They just said Julius Caesar.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, there you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know, just stupid things I think about.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Shit like that. That's hysterical. Come on.

SPEAKER_00

I bet you I bet you the first person to use that in that context was was Mary. You know, like running off.

SPEAKER_06

Take your sandals off before you came in, Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_00

What, Mom?

SPEAKER_06

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_04

Well, yeah, Ma, we live in Jerusalem.

SPEAKER_06

We literally standing on it.

SPEAKER_04

You did, you stand it. Exactly. Okay. You went a little bit farther back in that movie, but same thing. Jesus. Yes. What? Yes. What?

SPEAKER_02

Jesus. What?

SPEAKER_04

The unsung moment of that movie. You standing on it. I'd also go back in time, and uh the guy who invented coleslaw, I'd look at him and just go, don't stop it. Don't even say anything to him, just show it to him. Can I help you? I just look at him.

SPEAKER_06

Don't. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_04

Don't do it. Don't fucking do it.

SPEAKER_06

I can see Kyle burning down all the pistachio fields.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, are you shitting? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

You don't like pistachios? He's a Nazi. He doesn't like pistachios. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

One of those, okay, I go back in time just to relive this because it was fucking hysterical. I went, I was, what was it? I was like, I was like 18, 19 or some shit like that. And I just, yeah, typical. When you still use Facebook, like before Twitter was like a real big thing, you just use your Facebook status as like Twitter.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And I think I said, I think I said something like, Jesus Christ, am I the only person who doesn't like pistachios? Um, apparently I am. And uh the internet, mainly Mark, decided to absolutely roast me to oblivion. Like even Hiroshima was just like, damn, take it easy on that guy. That's a little hard. Mark literally goes, Yeah, because you're a Nazi. And then he literally posted a picture of Hitler.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no.

SPEAKER_06

Right off my wall. And that was before you got in trouble for doing stuff like that, so I got away with it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, back when people had a sense of humor.

SPEAKER_06

Now you can't yeah, you can't post anything like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, humor, humor is at a premium.

SPEAKER_06

Nothing.

SPEAKER_04

The little symbol. I mean, that little symbol had a big fucking meaning mark. It wasn't just a little symbol.

SPEAKER_06

Well, it's not a big symbol, it's a little symbol, you know.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, they made it pretty fucking big.

SPEAKER_06

Well, they made it big on top of his little building there that we blew up, but his little building that we blew up?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Before or after he burned it down.

SPEAKER_06

Well, he burned himself and then we blew it up.

SPEAKER_04

No, he didn't burn himself. He air quote unquote shot himself. Oh, you shot him. They burned him.

SPEAKER_06

And then they burned him, right?

SPEAKER_04

And it was really funny because you want to talk about like always was like sucking the fears, you know, dong and those other kind of functions, but the fact that go bul goes, goebels, whatever, he was just like, yes, ooh, oon to burn me too. And then there like wasn't enough gas. So he was just like, just kind of cooked. It was hysterical. So fucking funny. Like you were talking about second fiddle forever.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, well, Hitler was well done and he was rare. Yes, rare.

SPEAKER_00

How do we get on? I don't know how we got on this topic.

SPEAKER_04

No, no. Listen, I haven't listened I didn't make Holocaust jokes in the past like two episodes.

SPEAKER_06

I think I've seen every World War II documentary there is. I think I've seen three of them, but like 400 times. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, see, I my my hypothesis is being proven. I think it's just a man thing. You guys are so into World War II.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, exactly. You guys have murder documentaries. We got World War II.

SPEAKER_06

Everyone has the Roman Empire documentary. Genocide documentary. Just happened to be.

SPEAKER_00

See there you go.

SPEAKER_02

A World War. There you go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm sitting here thinking, like, you guys are talking about that. I'm like seeing, yeah, I'm thinking, you know, like if I could go back in time, like I want to see, like who took the first, who looked at a tomato and said, I'm gonna bite into this and I'm gonna use this to make like sauce.

SPEAKER_04

Don't use this to make sauce. No, I need to go back in time as the first person who shuffed an oyster and was like, let me take this, let me break open this rock and let me eat this snot looking shiz out of a fish.

SPEAKER_00

I want to know who the first person was that looked at a gooey duck and said, I'm gonna eat that. Oh. Do you know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

Oh Kyle, you have to educate yourself. Oh, Google it.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not telling them. Nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_00

No, you're gonna have to educate yourself, look it up on go to a real, a TV. Am I gonna get in trouble if I look this up?

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't do it on your computer.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's I mean, you can watch like people cook them. There's there's like tutorials on how to cook them.

SPEAKER_01

And it's it's an actual duck. No, it's like that's like it's a mollusk. It's uh it's a clam. It's it's a clam that looks like a dong.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's in the way you have to clean it and the things you have to do to it, they they live like in the sand, and so they like poke their little heads up out of the sand, and that's how like you have to wait for them to poke their little heads up, and you have to grab it and yank them out of the sand, and then you gotta, there's a whole cleaning process. It is but like who looked at that and said, I'm gonna I'm gonna eat that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, time travel. That's where we were. That's where we were.

SPEAKER_06

It didn't follow the basic formula of a time travel movie.

SPEAKER_03

No, I pretty much knew most of them.

SPEAKER_04

I mean Endgame doesn't count, right? Because like they pretty much tell you that they're going to different universes and fucking with the timeline and shit. That doesn't count, right?

SPEAKER_00

I can't think of the name of the movie, but a really good time travel movie. It's um I remember Dennis Quaid played in it, and he was a cop, and like there was he was trying to prevent he he was radioing. It was like they the radio, um, they he was talking to his son.

SPEAKER_06

Yep. Um but it was his son in the future or something like that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, son in the future was trying to talk to the dad in the past to prevent, I think the mother from getting killed by a serial killer, I think.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, hold on. I don't know this one. I do know.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, what the hell is that movie? It's it was really good. It's a it's a good time travel esque movie.

SPEAKER_06

Right. I don't know that one, but it called me interested. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty decent. Um actually an old popular movie that everyone will know that it took me a while to to quantify it as a time travel movie is uh Planet of the Apes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I saw that movie like a billion times and then finally realized, oh yeah, it is a time travel movie because they're on Earth. Yeah. Spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_05

God damn you! Damn you, yeah, blew it up.

What Counts As Time Travel

SPEAKER_04

Fucking I'm kind of a stickler for time travel movies. If I stick, I mean I don't care. I think I I fucking love like time travel and like those are like my favorite episodes of Family Guy when like Stewie has his little time machine that's going on and they start fucking with you. Right? I love those episodes. They're so fucking fun. I love time travel shit.

SPEAKER_00

Here's one. Would you consider Inception to be a time travel movie?

SPEAKER_06

Inception? Um, because I don't they don't travel through time.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's it's time it's time dilation, not necessarily time travel. Like everything is still happening, they're not actually going into the past. Right. They're just time is moving way slower, quote unquote, in the real world. So that's it.

SPEAKER_00

But they're still able to manipulate it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Okay, so I don't think it's time travel because they're not going back they they they're not going necessarily backward or forward in time. They're just slowing it down. And yeah, there is, it does have consequences when it comes back to the what, the the regular time, the real time. Because they're in dreams, but does it really count? Because when they come back to the real world, none of that really kind of yeah, but but but you know, no, it's not stereotypical.

SPEAKER_00

I'm thinking of the other what's the other NOLA movie?

SPEAKER_04

Interstellar?

SPEAKER_06

No, the one that just came out. Tenant!

SPEAKER_04

Tenant, tenant, tenant.

SPEAKER_06

Tenant, that was a good movie. Yeah, where they're doing like fast forward and reverse in time and everyone needs to. I've seen that movie twice, and I still don't know what the fuck's going on.

SPEAKER_04

I d I don't need to know what the fuck's going on. The movie was fucking sick.

SPEAKER_06

It was awesome.

SPEAKER_00

That was very good.

SPEAKER_04

They filmed like they filmed those scenes like in reverse, like throwing punches in reverse. Like, that's nuts. Come on.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so would you get here's another one. Uh, Field of Dreams. Is that a time slip or time travel?

SPEAKER_04

Feel the dreams. That is a uh sports movie.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's a time slip movie.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. I would probably be more of a time slip than a time travel.

SPEAKER_03

How do you feel about obnoxious time jumps in movies?

SPEAKER_06

Hate them.

SPEAKER_03

I hate them.

SPEAKER_00

What do you like? Are we talking like I mean, give me an example? X-Files episode where they're in, you know, Idaho, and then in the next scene they're, you know, at a crime scene in West Virginia.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, okay, so okay, so what do you gotta hate on my X-Files?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, oh, I love this match.

SPEAKER_04

She loves the X-Files, she fucking loves the X-Files.

SPEAKER_00

But I I can remember, like, yeah, I love X. You know what?

SPEAKER_04

I'll use I'll use Okay, so so time jumps. We'll use you know what? We'll use that episode. I'll use all of season one of The Witcher. And then I'll use Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

That was kind of messed up time jumps. It took me a while to get used to that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so that The Witcher, oh fuck, what's the other one I was just thinking of? Um, and then um The Godfather. The Godfather.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

When you go back and forth between young veto and present day, but that's just kind of telling his little story. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Did you all ever you were talking about the flash forwards and all that, um, flashbacks? I don't know why this movie popped in my head. There's an old movie, it's called Funny Farm with Chevy Chase. Yeah, and he's the writer, and they have like the you know, and she's just she's reading that novel, and she's like, she just finally just starts crying. She's like, I you have you have like flashbacks and flash forwards, and I think in this chapter you have a flash sideways, like none of it makes any sense. She just has a complete nervous breakdown over reading this book.

SPEAKER_02

Oh Christ.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know why that popped in my head. I haven't thought about that movie in years.

SPEAKER_04

Wow. Well, you know what just popped into my head? Sue might taste like pump capoe, but I wouldn't know because I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00

Talk about a movie with uh time jumps. Or like scene jumps.

SPEAKER_04

That was oh Jesus.

SPEAKER_00

That movie itself fucking priced.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's so good though. It's so okay.

SPEAKER_00

It's so okay.

SPEAKER_02

No, that's great. It's great fucking. No, it's good.

SPEAKER_04

Groundhog Day. Is that time travel?

SPEAKER_06

Groundhog Day.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, okay, so okay, so Groundhog Day and Edge of Tomorrow. Would you consider those time travel movies? Oof.

SPEAKER_06

That's a good question. I mean, he's No.

SPEAKER_00

I would I I'd say that's more of um you're caught in a loop. It's a time loop. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That movie was great. You get to see Tom Cruise die like 55 times in that movie. It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

That movie is so good. It is a good movie, though. I enjoyed it for you. Groundhog Day. Oh my god. I love I love Groundhog Day. I love that movie. Everything about that movie is fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_04

Just that era of Bill Murray. You just, you know, you'd go back in time to watch those movies in the theaters like when they first come out, look at you. That Caddyshack. I know Caddyshack for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, Caddyshack, yeah. I can quote that movie like by heart.

SPEAKER_04

The whole movie. The whole movie. Every line.

SPEAKER_00

But in in uh Groundhog Day, the the friend who's a salesman, like every time. Ned, Ned Ryerson.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, I got one more. I got one more question of if you could kind of stuff. Now spare me the bullshit gag me answers. Like, oh, wedding day, day I became a parent, blah, all that bullshit, right? Is there a is there a day or a time or a moment or something you could experience again for the first time? Like you could go back and you could experience something, anything. Relive something.

SPEAKER_06

Relive it the same way.

SPEAKER_04

You know what? Yeah, let's say relive it the same way. So do the same exact thing. Like let's say, you know, I I don't I don't fucking let's say your first ball game. You know what I mean? Just to go back to what you remember, this, whatever you remember that, it was like the perfect day, the perfect moment, a moment you'll never forget in your life. Like I said, take away all the gag me with the fucking spoon moments, you know?

SPEAKER_06

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, go ahead, Mark.

SPEAKER_06

Uh I mean, yeah, the first time I think the first ball game that I did see was I want to say old, was it old Yankee Stadium? Or was it Shea Stadium? I think it was Shea Stadium. My uncle took me to Shea Stadium, and I didn't realize how big the ball stadiums actually were until I got there, and I looked around and I went, holy shit. Of course, I was only, you know, whatever, six years old. Yeah. Nice.

SPEAKER_00

Nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But yeah. Yeah, reliving that would would be cool. What about you, Angie?

SPEAKER_00

I was just thinking, I think. I mean, if we're okay, we're gonna take any kind of sentimental kind of moments out of this. Right. No, it can it can be.

SPEAKER_06

It can be the birth of your daughter.

SPEAKER_04

But but if it's like like let's say it's the the first time you saw her, like her first solo, I'll allow that. But like the obvious is like when she was born or like when you found a thing, like all that kind of thing. But like, you know, I know, you know, so I know clearly she's somewhat important to you, but like if it was like like you said, if it was like let's say like her first solo, her first recital, I'll allow that.

SPEAKER_00

That that will make sense because it's not just the oh when you should kind of feel like I'm gonna take any kind of sentimental because there are a few moments that are like hitting my head, and I'm trying not to think about them because I feel like if I think about them, I will start to cry and I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02

Think about it, think about it, think about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Um, so I it would be I had a um 18, went to a beach trip with some friends. Um there was yeah, God, that was just that was just a great trip. Like it was just, yeah, like there's just so many, oh, so many memories. Like, and then the perfect like T Way living. It was just perfect, like I can still remember like the salty air, and like, and this was um way before it was at um Nag's Head, and it was way before, like I feel like it became so touristy, you know. Um it was just like in the house that we were staying at was perfect, and in particular, it just happened. There was like a group of guys happened upon us while we were out on the like I don't know, I just had this like a few days with this guy, and I still I can't I could not tell you his name to this day. I don't remember his name or anything, but it was just it was just like the perfect trip, you know, like and it wasn't like you know, we were getting drunk and you know, partying and stuff.

SPEAKER_01

It was just You're just having a good time, just looking at it.

SPEAKER_00

It was just we were just having fun and goofing off and like these guys we weren't doing and we weren't doing anything. They we were just goofing off with them and like you know sitting at one o'clock in the morning at the beach, you know, on the on the sand, just laughing our asses off over dumb stuff, you know? That kind of that that kind of memory, like that's like one of those, yeah, yeah, I could relive that.

SPEAKER_06

Yes. Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_00

Do you ever have like those yeah, I don't, it's like you you just have an experience and you just in the moment realize like, oh, this is this is good, like like everything, like life is really good right now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean they're fleeting, but they don't last very long, they don't come too often, but that's what she said. But anyway, as soon as that came out of my mouth, I was like, well, I'm not phrasing. What about you, Kyle?

SPEAKER_04

Uh yeah, there's yeah, there's okay. Honestly, the first one that comes to my head is opening night of Endgame. I'm telling you, I see that, I see that video every now and then it comes across my feed.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

It's the it's the scene with Cap using Neil Nair, right? And it's the audios of the of the um the audience's reaction.

SPEAKER_00

On your left.

SPEAKER_04

Mark, you were there too. Like you were literally, you were, I think you were sitting right in front of me. But it was like it just just the group of people that we were with. But just also the people in in the theater with us. Like it was not to get too heavy into it, but like we were, let's face it, Marvel has made history with what they've done with those movies. So like we were almost a small bit of history, a small corner of history, but we were in we were living cinema history with some of these movies. And so, like, with Infinity War and Endgame, just seeing just talking about that scene. I'm literally getting goosebumps about it. I just remember everyone cheering and screaming, and then him lift just the scene of being there flying and then coming back and then Cap's guy seeing that. Um say Avengers assemble. Like, I know what it meant for me. I can imagine hearing those words. I can imagine what you felt, Mark. Jenny, because like you said, you've been collecting comic books for how long? Too long. Marvel's a bit of a bigger thing for you. Yeah. But just but but for but those movies that like like it would it's that one comes to mind. Um seeing uh what's it called? The um the first showing of um The Force Awakens. I was with my father, my best friend. So same thing. So like the closest people to me with like the closest franchise to me was like it was it was like it was surreal, like for a moment. You know, just like it was even before like when the lights dimmed down and you know the screen's black and the blue letters, you know, go for galaxy far for a white. It just all of that instantly, like you said, you you you can you can smell the air, you can you can smell the salt in the air, you can hear those, like I can smell the popcorn, like I can kind of I hear and kind of feel the like stickiness your feet kind of are at the bottom of like a movie theater, you know what I mean? Like all of it. Um and don't judge, no one judge me for this one. For the love of God.

SPEAKER_06

I've already done it.

SPEAKER_00

I've already judged you.

SPEAKER_04

Um when I first completed um Red Dead 2.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04

I swear to God, I swear to exactly. Mark's laughing, he's judging it after that. No, no, I get it.

SPEAKER_00

I get it.

SPEAKER_04

It's it's things, it's it's a couple of just it's a great video game.

SPEAKER_06

It's probably the better, best video game I've ever played.

SPEAKER_04

It is, it's just, I just remember like the the the way that that's like it's like every other episode we fucking talk about this fucking game. But the story how they do and just how it's done, it's just so goddamn beautiful. You can't help but to get so immersed in the game.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and it's like it's like one of those games like you can't, like, you can't get that feeling back of the first time that you played that game.

SPEAKER_04

You can't, you can't. Like I said, it's just there's there's there's too many of them that it's really hard for me to choose because it's it's you know, it's those two moments. Um when Lauren and I just last when we went to go see Bull with my Valentine, and it was that fucking it was that full circle moment for me. There's this dude with his son, his son, it was his first, it was his first concert. The first time, and like an asshole, I'm looking to my left, pointing to where the kid was to me, but no one's here, no one can see me right now. But anywho, yeah, like there was a there was a 12, there was a um there was a fucking 12-year-old kid there. It was his first concert. He was right there, right in the gate to see both my valentine, his favorite band. I was that kid 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It was I was 12 years old, I was right in the gate. I wasn't with my father, but I was 12 years old, I was right in the gate. I'm seeing this band that is my so it was a very weird full circle moment for me right there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Red Dead 2, man. We're gonna have to do uh Red Dead 2, 2, Electric Boogaloo, and bring Mark back to talk about Red Dead Redemption.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you've played it. I have. Have you heard about my have you heard about have you told him what happened to me?

SPEAKER_06

You're balling your eyes out? Yeah. Yeah. Did you listen to that episode, Mark?

SPEAKER_00

Um shame on you if you haven't.

SPEAKER_04

It's okay if you haven't listened, but no, but like, okay, so the bit of it is the fact that what what the hell was it that was it I think you she had a sh Angie had like the shittiest day like ever, and she thought she was gonna take it out on the the townsfolk of like Valentine? She literally she obliterated, she blitzed. Oh yeah, the train.

SPEAKER_00

I I took a train and I killed the entire train, went car to car, killing people, like executed them, and like it was horrible.

SPEAKER_04

It was I don't know, she modded it so she could like crucif, literally crucify these people. There was there was Arthur Morgan with his shirt off nailing people to crosses and shit. Don't know how it happened. Anyway, and I was like, oh yeah, no, like the honor system, the thing at the bottom, you know, I I told her about the honor system. Yeah, no, what you do depends on how the game is, and like there's multiple endings to this. And if you want the good one, this is what you got. Do you have any idea how many fish she caught if she said how many people she said hi to and fucking sand me? To get that honor system back. I will never oh but you know what? Fuck it. That might be another thing I'd like to go back and relive too, is because you finish that game at like two o'clock in the morning.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's like two or three o'clock in the morning she finished that game. I am dead to the world of sleep. I wake up at like six o'clock in the morning. Oh, you have a voice message, Nancy. I just I play.

SPEAKER_02

So the deer.

SPEAKER_04

It's just I love it. The grind that she did to get that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was that was a hell of a grind that I had to get. I'm still I'm telling you, Mark, to this, I am still so fucking mad that my horse, cheese, died. And I did not know cheese was going to die. Yeah, I I um I am so like I'm so up. I was so upset.

SPEAKER_04

So that's I did feel a little bit bad not telling you about that, but I knew that was gonna hit you because I knew like how close you were to cheese. I was just like, oh, I just let it happen.

SPEAKER_00

Like cheese was my rider, literally my ride or die. Like that, I took care of that horse. Let me tell you.

SPEAKER_04

She better care of the horse because herself.

SPEAKER_00

Oh shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That horse got more bass than you did.

SPEAKER_00

I tell you what, Arthur Morgan did.

SPEAKER_04

We're not going on that one.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you know, I when you were talking about, you know, the um the movie experiences, I'm telling and I'm never gonna shut up about this fucking movie. So just everyone knows.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, I know. I actually it's funny. Lauren and I were talking about it last night. We were just, and even Lauren's just like, yeah, I guess this movie's kind of a thing, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Project Hail Mary. I think I will always remember the day that I saw that movie. Like, that movie is so important. It is so good. Yeah. Yeah. I I definitely, yeah, that that'll be like a thing that like I wish I could go back and see it for the first time. The second time that I saw it, just as good as the first time, but it still wasn't. I mean, and I even read the book, the audiobook, you know, did the whole thing. So I kind of like I already knew like how the story ends. But I'm telling you, seeing it, seeing that movie, it's fantastic. Like, everyone should go see this movie. It's so good.

SPEAKER_03

She'd gone back in time and heard the very first time of Francisco, don't gaslight me, Jesus.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, yeah. If I could go back and like, yeah, that oh god.

SPEAKER_03

I'm yeah, that's when you gotta get on Mark. Dungeon Crawler Carl.

SPEAKER_00

Dungeon Crawler Carl, I'm telling you, you yeah, you would absolutely love this, love this series. Um, it's basically it's up your alley, you'd enjoy it. Yeah, a guy and his girlfriend's ex or his ex-girlfriend's cat, um, who is a show cat, Princess Donut, the Queen Anne Chonk, um, basically ends up in a um galactic um game show. Like an R like a real life RPG where if you die, you die.

SPEAKER_05

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_04

It's like if okay, so if it's um Jumanji and Running Man uh fucked Dungeons and Dragons, and it was babysat by Seth McFarland.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Okay. That's a pretty accurate description.

SPEAKER_04

Like, tell me I'm wrong. Like tell me I'm wrong. It's great. The Tom Fleury is just it's next level.

SPEAKER_00

It's so good. Yeah. But yeah, there if they the eighth book is coming out um in May, and there's only going to be ten books. He has confirmed that actually technically he was like, mm-hmm it's only nine books, but the ninth book is so big that they're splitting it into two books.

SPEAKER_04

Um, we're back to that bullshit again.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Part one, part two movies.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um so it's just, it's just so good. And in like the characters, like there's a um there's a goat that that uh preppent prepa Why can't I not say his name? Prepotente. Um he gains sentience, just like Princess Donut, and he is just he's so he's so hilarious. But he's like one of these uh fainting, screaming goats. It's so good.

Wrap Up Comics Links And Subscriptions

SPEAKER_06

Okay, I'll add it to the list.

SPEAKER_00

All right. Well, that's it for this episode. Thanks so much for listening to us ramble on about time travel that took some side quests.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, hey, hey. It's not about the destination, it's about the journey. Any good journey that isn't Don't Stop Believing has a couple of side quests.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. And it would not be a silly goose episode without some tangents. Um like, share, do all the things.

SPEAKER_03

Good idea comics.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, yes, go to good ideas comics and read more comics, goddammit.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, buy the fucking actual books, comics, things, paper.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Physical, physical media people.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. Uh yeah, I mean, before we started recording, I was talking to Mark about um some of his stories, and they sound really interesting. Um, I definitely think everyone should be checking those out.

SPEAKER_03

But I don't know how.

SPEAKER_04

I still haven't read your your Western. I've read it.

SPEAKER_00

No, that's the one I was so interested in. It was the Western.

SPEAKER_04

I haven't read The Western and your is the horror one new?

SPEAKER_06

Uh it's no, not really. Um it's it's an anthology, so I uh I took a bunch of people, I figured maybe they would be interested in uh me publishing their stuff. Uh the thing is I told them, you know, I'm not gonna censor you. You you tell your story the way you want it told, the more disturbing it is, the better.

SPEAKER_02

Um fuck them up, fam.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, no, I was all for it. And uh the first issue that um I just got in print um has a story in it that's pretty disturbing, and I like it.

SPEAKER_03

Rigor Mortis, right?

SPEAKER_06

That's the name of this one. Rigor Mortis, correct. There it is. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Nice, nice. Um, yeah, check um check out all the links in our show notes. Uh we have the Discord link, the merch link. Another thing that's new is that you can now buy a subscription to the podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Um the podcast, the podcast, two friends. It's the it's just the podcast. There's no other ones.

SPEAKER_00

What did I say?

SPEAKER_03

No, I was just being a jackass making like an OnlyFans joke or something.

SPEAKER_00

But oh.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I suck. My bad.

SPEAKER_00

See, I haven't had any sleep, so I miss I missed the mark on that. Uh yeah, so you can you can buy a subscription to the podcast, um, which means that you have an opportunity to get the episodes uh before they come out. So our episodes come out on uh Wednesdays. You can uh get them as early as Monday. And um when we have um subscription only content that you of course would have access to that um content as well. So that's something new that we're launching. Uh I think that's it. I think that's all the business. I think it's it. Mark, thank you so much for for agreeing to do this and coming out. I've I've this has been fun. Uh it's been a great. Great conversation. I love delving into topics like this, so thank you so much.

SPEAKER_06

You're welcome. Well, thanks for having me. I and uh I enjoyed myself.

SPEAKER_00

And uh, Kyle, you can go fuck yourself.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, Kyle, fuck you.

SPEAKER_04

Well, who says I already haven't?

SPEAKER_02

What do you think all that clicking was? Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00

All right, everybody, bye. Okay, bye.

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